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| dr.tim |
 Dec 17 2011, 03:10 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 17-December 11 From: Butte, America Member No.: 13,907 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Hello 914 world,
I recently purchased a '72 914-4 that was converted at some point to 2.0L. Unfortunately, the inspection and purchase was done by proxy and the car is still 1200 miles away in California. I will bring it up to begin work when convenient, probably this summer. One of downsides of living in Montana is that I have to look for rust free cars elsewhere. The other is that I have long commutes to race tracks. This is all that I have seen of the car...Pictures: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i75.photobucket.com-13907-1324156258.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i75.photobucket.com-13907-1324156258.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i75.photobucket.com-13907-1324156258.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i75.photobucket.com-13907-1324156258.4.jpg) WHY 914? I have been instructing HPDEs for ~6 years now with ACNA, and occasionally with PCA: Laguna Seca Sears Point Spring Mountain Buttonwillow Thunderhill Arroyo Seco Inde Motorsports Ranch Heartland Park Miller Motorsports Park Mid Ohio Nelson Ledges (at Spring Mountain) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i75.photobucket.com-13907-1324156258.5.jpg) I do fairly well with my current car, but it has fundamental limitations of the understeer kind. It can be overcome with technique, but that tends to consume tires. I am at the point where I have achieved all that I can with the current car, and need something that rotates. I am also getting tired of catching BMWs at every corner and having them pull away down the straights. I was considering several new cars (CaymanS, TTRS), but I really want to move toward a dedicated track car that I don't have to drive to the track and prep when I get there. Modern cars carry a fair bit of extra weight which has impacts on the track, as well as requiring more substantial vehicles for towing. So something older fit the bill and would leave more money for tow vehicle and trailer. I was still on the fence between old and new cars when the car I bought fell into my lap and made the decision for me. Luckily, I have an understanding wife, and I assured her that this would be a cheaper project than buying a Cayman S new. (A lot more unique as well.) I am no stranger to 914s. I used to drive with Dave Shepard of GPR in SLO county, and was my first exposure to engine-swapped 914s. I owned a wrecked 914 for a while which I parted and used the engine for the deathmachine I built: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i75.photobucket.com-13907-1324159923.1.jpg) So I am familiar with the type IV, as well as the chassis and some of the standard issues with the car. Unfortunately, I have never even driven one! I enjoy the process of fabrication, so stripping, caging, reinforcing, and flaring is in the plan. The target is a vehicle with: -power to weight ratio on par with GT3s -minimal compromises for streetability -flares for more substantial tires -fun. The current plan is a 3.6L + 915 swap and a fair bit of help in the suspension department. |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Dec 17 2011, 03:18 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Sounds like a fun project (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| Tom_T |
Dec 17 2011, 03:46 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) .... and I think you'll be much happier (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) the 914 project you're planning.
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| Grelber |
Dec 17 2011, 03:47 PM
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Insert favorite Don Rickles joke here. Group: Members Posts: 690 Joined: 30-May 06 From: McKinney, Texas Member No.: 6,107 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sounds like a great project. Oh, and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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| SirAndy |
Dec 17 2011, 07:20 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,644 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(dr.tim @ Dec 17 2011, 01:10 PM)  The current plan is a 3.6L + 915 swap and a fair bit of help in the suspension department. That is a good plan! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) There's a link in my signature to my 3.6L conversion thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 17 2011, 07:51 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,589 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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| mtn flyr |
Dec 17 2011, 07:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 234 Joined: 20-December 07 From: Bozeman Mt Member No.: 8,491 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Where in Mt. are you? 914s are pretty rare around here!
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| campbellcj |
Dec 17 2011, 08:03 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California
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| rick 918-S |
Dec 17 2011, 08:58 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,462 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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| dlee6204 |
Dec 17 2011, 08:59 PM
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Howdy Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
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| zambezi |
Dec 17 2011, 10:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Lafayette, LA Member No.: 8,920 Region Association: South East States |
Welcome. With your plans it sounds like you should jump into the group buy being arranged for wheel flares. DE's are fun. hope to attend one someday in my 914 also. I too have never driven my 914 on the street yet just first gear around my yard. I've had it about 5 years now. Good luck and show us pics as you go along.
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| Gustl |
Dec 18 2011, 12:11 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,505 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) ... from far far away (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| dr.tim |
Dec 18 2011, 09:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 17-December 11 From: Butte, America Member No.: 13,907 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks for the greetings everyone. I will indeed keep you informed and well pictured of progress. To answer a few specific posts:
Sir Andy, I have been poking through your thread (and socalstuttgart) this morning already. It will be useful in preventing the repeating of mistakes I hope. mtn flyr, 914s a rarity...hence expanding my search to the entire western US for a good example. I am in lovely Butte working as a quantum mechanic / general problem solver for our local silicon plant. I love this guy! -----> (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) Just know that. in this case, the conversion was self-imposed. zambezi, DEs are indeed fun. I am an addict and need my fix; I can't get enough of the track, whether teaching, riding, or driving. It is purity of focus and the art of optimization. Done right, it is not unlike the feeling one gets from sailing..I find it relaxing. I hope to see you on the track someday, and with my habit of driving across the country in search of new roadcourses, the probability is not slim. I am seriously considering joining the GB, I am only curious of what those flares will limit me to WRT tire width...anyone know off hand? Gustl, I have spent only a brief time in your part of the world. I was in Tirol early 2010 for winter driving school. (I think we will go back next winter with a few friends.) This is on the wall in my office! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i75.photobucket.com-13907-1324222578.1.jpg) I was pouring over some old catalogs this morning as well...now I'm getting excited! |
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| rick 918-S |
Dec 18 2011, 09:57 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,462 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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Just wait until you actually drive one! The 3.6 swap will make you pucker!
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| dr.tim |
Dec 18 2011, 05:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 17-December 11 From: Butte, America Member No.: 13,907 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Acceleration doesn't make me pucker. I spent some time in a GT2 at MidOhio this year! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
Lack of brakes however, does... |
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| johannes |
Dec 18 2011, 05:13 PM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
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| NORD |
Dec 18 2011, 09:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,505 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Lynden Washington Member No.: 2,756 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) We are getting a new track up in the PNW The Ridge by Shelton WA. Maybe see you over here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| rohar |
Dec 18 2011, 11:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
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And hey, Butte isn't that far from Spokane County Raceway. A 3.6 might actually make that massive straight a bit exciting. |
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| Socalandy |
Dec 19 2011, 08:50 AM
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Its got to be Yellow!!! Group: Members Posts: 2,432 Joined: 29-August 09 From: Orange Member No.: 10,742 Region Association: Southern California |
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| mojorisen914 |
Dec 19 2011, 09:50 AM
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Visit your local strip club Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Denver Colorado Member No.: 6,403 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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