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> Rear Calipers, What a Deal!!!
d7n7master
post Aug 19 2004, 08:27 PM
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Hey Hey,
Check it out, http://www.9xauto.com/914.html
Maybe if we do a group buy of rear calipers we can get a deal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)
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post Aug 19 2004, 09:06 PM
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can ya narrpw it down a little? there's 100 useless products on that link and i have no idea which one you're talking about ...
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post Aug 19 2004, 09:20 PM
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That didn't work out as planned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
Click the link, then "parts" - "brake calipers". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Aug 19 2004, 09:36 PM
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I like that "Save On New Brake Calipers"

Has anyone used their flares? Any good?
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post Aug 19 2004, 09:51 PM
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$1800 each..... watta bahgan
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post Aug 19 2004, 11:01 PM
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After reading the absolute CROCK in their ad for fuel rails, I wouldn't trust them to take my order at Mickey D's, If I actually bought food at Mickey D's.................................... The Cap'n
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post Aug 20 2004, 08:31 AM
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So, $1800.- for one rear caliper. Hummm. I have a spare rear suspension console... that's gotta be worth a mucking mint!!! What a joke (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 20 2004, 08:41 AM
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I have never bought anything from them and never will. They are trying to make a lot of money on parts they think are made out of gold. Everything they sell is priced way too high. They must think these are real Porsches.
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post Aug 20 2004, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(skline @ Aug 20 2004, 06:41 AM)
They must think these are real Porsches.

Oh no you didn't!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 13 2004, 02:29 PM
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We appreciate your criticism. If you need to pick our brains in regards to some of the products we sell. You are welcome.

In regards to our fuel rails- Our local PCA technical committee will not allow any 914 with our fuel rails to run in "unmodified" class. We received their opinion stating the "power gain will be significant in comparison to the stock".

This fuel rail is the first step in modifying 914 FI fuel system.

Here is our recent experiment with 2.0 FI


Stock fuel injectors are 28 psi or 28 LB/Per hour rated. We installed 55 psi or 55 Lb/Ph injectors and increased fuel pressure from 28 psi to 55Psi. Original fuel rails had to go. Now, next step we added more air to the engine. Increased gasoline flow needs more air. We increased the size of unreasonably small throttle body, by removing the original air plenum and installing early type 1.7 single carburetor intake system. However, instead of the carburetor, large size throttle body was fitted reusing carburetor’s mounting bolts. Fireball XR 3000 replaced our ignition as well. The result was stunning. We are still working to refine the system. Aircraft industry is still using this engine in CESNA’s. There are lessons to be learned from them.

If you believe it is all B.S. Printed out and show this to the 914 mechanic.
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post Sep 13 2004, 03:09 PM
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It's all BS until we see actual data. Simply stating the results were stunning tells us nothing. I'd love to see actual dyno results from fitting a larger throttle body and nearly doubling the size of the injectors and the fuel pressure, presumably with no other changes besides electronic ignition. I'll bet the results were stunning...
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post Sep 13 2004, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(lapuwali @ Sep 13 2004, 01:09 PM)
............. nearly doubling the size of the injectors and the fuel pressure, presumably with no other changes besides electronic ignition. I'll bet the results were stunning...

I would be stunned if the engine ran.

If it did, I bet the amount of black smoke could be pretty stunning too.


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post Sep 13 2004, 03:32 PM
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So, if the rail would not allow enough delivery, you obviously had to replace the fuel lines from the tank to the center tunnel hard lines, the hard lines themselves and the lines to the rails, as they all have the same flow limitations as the stock rails, correct?

As an FYI, the corbeau seat syou have listed for 914 only fit if you are under 5"9" or you have them heavily modified/reupolstered.....
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post Sep 13 2004, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(9xauto @ Sep 13 2004, 01:29 PM)
We appreciate your criticism. If you need to pick our brains in regards to some of the products we sell. You are welcome.

In regards to our fuel rails- Our local PCA technical committee will not allow any 914 with our fuel rails to run in "unmodified" class. We received their opinion stating the "power gain will be significant in comparison to the stock".

This fuel rail is the first step in modifying 914 FI fuel system.

Here is our recent experiment with 2.0 FI


Stock fuel injectors are 28 psi or 28 LB/Per hour rated. We installed 55 psi or 55 Lb/Ph injectors and increased fuel pressure from 28 psi to 55Psi. Original fuel rails had to go. Now, next step we added more air to the engine. Increased gasoline flow needs more air. We increased the size of unreasonably small throttle body, by removing the original air plenum and installing early type 1.7 single carburetor intake system. However, instead of the carburetor, large size throttle body was fitted reusing carburetor’s mounting bolts. Fireball XR 3000 replaced our ignition as well. The result was stunning. We are still working to refine the system. Aircraft industry is still using this engine in CESNA’s. There are lessons to be learned from them.

If you believe it is all B.S. Printed out and show this to the 914 mechanic.
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Aug 19 2004, 09:01 PM)
After reading the absolute CROCK in their ad for fuel rails, I wouldn't trust them to take my order at Mickey D's, If I actually bought food at Mickey D's.................................... The Cap'n

Y a did Sunday Morning..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:37 PM
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I'm sure you have dyno sheets to back up your claim of "stunning" performance. Other than making the engine run really rich, I can't see a huge gain in any of this. I've always heard that the major limitations are on the exhaust side. Dumping way more fuel and air in isn't going to help much if you can't get rid of it. We're a pretty skeptical bunch when it comes to bolt on horsepower for our cars. Some sort of evidence is required.
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:48 PM
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$1800 per? They can eat dicks. I have a pair of 944 rear calipers i'd rather fabircate mounting for, than pay $1800 per caliper from them.
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:49 PM
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post Sep 14 2004, 06:56 AM
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World Renown Company like CB Performance selling the fuel injected kit for the type IV engine for years, which includes large fuel rail and throttle body for every port. Just the one I've described. We resell one on our site. However, the price is $1700. Whatever I've stated was known for years. The type IV engine in our cars was designed during WWII. The Bosch only began designing electronic fuel injection in 60-70's to refit these engines with new system. It was their first try. In 2004 we know its shortcomings.


As far as our caliper price. Contact your local Porsche Dealer or Performance Product to verify what many of you found funny. New factory calipers are indeed priced that high. People from foreign countries usually buy them since used ones are not available. Most of the 914 are in U.S. anyway. Just like why OEM rear roof seal is priced at $278? It should be $50. Right?


I do not know why do I bother with this thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Sep 14 2004, 07:09 AM
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I thought Cessna used Lycoming engines? What the... ?
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