NWHA Schedule for 2012, 2012 HillClimbs. Options

[PeeGreen 914]

Why don't you show up Rob. We need some more 914's up there and it's down to you, me, Mike K. and a few others to hold up the side. We can call ourselves the old technology boys and girls. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Randal would have to lose the fancy modern fuel injection system and all the high tech carbon fiber bits and Brit would have to lose the modern motor and suspension in his car for that name to fit. Lol! Rob has truly old school 914/6 built with time honored vintage parts that could have been purchased in the 80s. That twin plug carbed 2.5 liter motor has been built for decades by Porsche racers. Mikes car qualifies for vintage status too. They should think of having a vintage class for older cars like the 914s and 356s. That might encourage some more retired antique race cars to come out.

The car I'd love to see up there is Rob Boyntons GT2. I have talked to him about going there.

Rob's car would run the same class as myself up at Cascade. That is SPU (Super Production Under 3 liters). Now wouldn't that be fun, i.e. Rob running Cascade - especially if Rob let Grant drive his car. The more competition in the class the better; it would be a classic 4 vs 6 match up. The perfect vintage car (Rob's) vs a hybrid with all those those new technology pieces... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

I've been talking to Boynton for two years about Cascade. He might put a trip together and that would be fun. Maybe he'll bring Scott Fraser up to compete against Bill Cooper. Now that would be an event to watch. Bill is a great driver; you learn just by watching him take a corner, in the wet, faster than people take it in the dry.

Rob Boynton is a cool guy and his car is awesome. He's a pretty amazing driver as well. That would be a crazy car to watch do this. He has been coming up to the Pacwood Nationals the past few years and ran in the same class as I did.

[grantsfo]

Rob's car would run the same class as myself up at Cascade. That is SPU (Super Production Under 3 liters). Now wouldn't that be fun, i.e. Rob running Cascade - especially if Rob let Grant drive his car. The more competition in the class the better; it would be a classic 4 vs 6 match up. The perfect vintage car (Rob's) vs a hybrid with all those those new technology pieces... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Cant you run DOTR tires and run under 2.5 OSPU? Think that would be more competitive.

As much as I'd love to drive my old 914 I'm going to stick with the Z as my Hillclimb car. I have always wanted more power when hillclimbing. Carrying momentum only goes so far in Hillclimbing. Raw power or excellent power to weight ratio is where its at. The Z will be pretty darn quick for a street car. It should be making 350 WHP by the Hoopa event. If I get a blower on it by then It will make nearly 500 WHP. My old 914 was awesome track car but its peaky motor was hard to use at Hoopa. We either had to slow down and use 1st or lug 2nd gear - still plenty of excitement though so would encourage Rob to come on out!

[PeeGreen 914]

Cant you run DOTR tires and run under 2.5 OSPU? Think that would be more competitive.

As much as I'd love to drive my old 914 I'm going to stick with the Z as my Hillclimb car. I have always wanted more power when hillclimbing. Carrying momentum only goes so far in Hillclimbing. Raw power or excellent power to weight ratio is where its at. The Z will be pretty darn quick for a street car. It should be making 350 WHP by the Hoopa event. If I get a blower on it by then It will make nearly 500 WHP. My old 914 was awesome track car but its peaky motor was hard to use at Hoopa. We either had to slow down and use 1st or lug 2nd gear - still plenty of excitement though so would encourage Rob to come on out!

Yeah, those Pike's Peak cars all seem to have plenty of HP on demand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I wonder what it would be like to drive a car like that. Most powerful, torquie, car I've ever driven was an AX prepped Viper and the sheer power was amazing.

[grantsfo]

Rob Boynton is a cool guy and his car is awesome. He's a pretty amazing driver as well. That would be a crazy car to watch do this. He has been coming up to the Pacwood Nationals the past few years and ran in the same class as I did.

Yeah I spent some time walking West Course at Nationals with him and funny enough topic came up again about Hoopa and Cascade. He'd love to do one but its a real commitment of time and very close to Packwood on the schedule. Us working folks can only get way for so many 4 day weekends. Hoopa is a real commitment of time and money. I think thats why its so poorly attended by people in the Bay Area. Its very much a small local event too. Not same level of prestige or attendance as a SCCA National Tour Event. Hoopa is lucky to see 50 cars. Its just a bunch of fun people running up a hill. High percentage of people walk away with a trophy or a new record if they have any driving talent. In fact one guy who drives Hoopa every year rotates to differnt classes just so he can have a record in as many classes as possible. T shirts list all the record holders. LOL! Of course year after I set a record they stopped event and no T Shirts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Again would be cool to get some more Porsche guys out for a couple Hillclimbs.

[Randal]

The two guys from Canada in the supercharged Mustang both had good runs at Cascade. One of them set the hill climb record for SM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcgOwkv66o

Hope you get that supercharger bolted on your Nissan Grant. Not sure if you would be running the same class as these guys, but I'll be up there chasing these guys.

I ran a 1:59 (new SPU record) with a thrown out run, they ran 1:55 (record) and 1:57 in 5 runs. Great competition.

Get that blower on Grant.

Can't wait for Cascade Lakes.

Very different than Hoopa, i.e., more European flavor and a great hill.

[grantsfo]

The two guys from Canada in the supercharged Mustang both had good runs at Cascade. One of them set the hill climb record for SM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcgOwkv66o

Hope you get that supercharger bolted on your Nissan Grant. Not sure if you would be running the same class as these guys, but I'll be up there chasing these guys.

I ran a 1:59 (new SPU record) with a thrown out run, they ran 1:55 (record) and 1:57 in 5 runs. Great competition.

Get that blower on Grant.

Can't wait for Cascade Lakes.

Very different than Hoopa, i.e., more European flavor and a great hill.

I would be SSM. So the Mustang is safe! Working on blower details this week. My car with extra 150 HP and torque will be scary. Drove 370z with kit that I'm looking at. Immediate throttle response that threw me into the seat and kept me pinned until I let off the go pedal! My car will be dang scary with HP! Its a lot heaveir than most SSM cars however It will have a ton of instant torque and HP in low RPM trange. Nice thing about 370 Z is they have suspension that can put down the power. Tranny's and drive train are very well designed as well so no real weakness with power upgrade and if I do lightweight flywheel and pullies the weight in the front stays the same.

I was faster in my old 175 WHP boxster than last SSM record car at Hoopa. I know the Z as it sits now is faster than that car. So should be fun.

[6freak]

If i can find time i would like to do a hill climb this year ..just so i can say i did it
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[grantsfo]

Order placed! Whoo hoo!

http://youtu.be/RRpUC72wV8M

[Randal]

Order placed! Whoo hoo!

http://youtu.be/RRpUC72wV8M

I love Stillen stuff. Had a bunch on my Maxima awhile ago.

Glad you getting the supercharger Grant. You can run against those guys with the supercharged Mustang up at Cascade Lakes. They will probably come down for Hoopa as well.

They run SSM.

If you're going to run at Hoopa and Cascade, or any hill climb for that matter, I'd sure be thinking about some internal stiffing, i.e., a complete cage. Can't be safe enough when running a hill climb, especially in a car with 500 rear wheel HP.

Also a cage would make that suspension work better, so a plus on both sides. Safety and suspension... good stuff.

[6freak]

If i can find time i would like to do a hill climb this year ..just so i can say i did it
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

whats required to run....besides the norm for AX or track day
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Randal]

If i can find time i would like to do a hill climb this year ..just so i can say i did it
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

whats required to run....besides the norm for AX or track day
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pretty much SCCA rules. I noticed a number of sedans (Subi's) that were lightened, but didn't have cages. They did have 5 points belts and other safety stuff.

Check the websites for more information. http://www.nhahillclimb.org/Rules.html

[6freak]

If i can find time i would like to do a hill climb this year ..just so i can say i did it
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

whats required to run....besides the norm for AX or track day
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pretty much SCCA rules. I noticed a number of sedans (Subi's) that were lightened, but didn't have cages. They did have 5 points belts and other safety stuff.

Check the websites for more information. http://www.nhahillclimb.org/Rules.html

right on! thanks