 Original OEM 6 engine install question, Front bolt-is there a trick? |
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| Krieger |
 Dec 30 2011, 09:40 AM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 4,711 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None 
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I temporarily installed the engine in my car yesterday!. I am using a factory oem front mount. Everything lined up great, the bolt went in up through the engine bracket and rubber mount nicely. It was difficult to get the bolt threaded into the nut plate on top. The plate kept moving. The way everything was situated (on my low rise lift) I couldn't get a hand on top to hold it. Is there a trick to doing this? I'm thinking maybe of using some glue/seam sealer to hold it in place.
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| GeorgeRud |
Dec 30 2011, 11:10 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Tie wrap around the mount?
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| sixnotfour |
Dec 30 2011, 01:09 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,432 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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Does your bolt have the tapered end ?
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| Krieger |
Dec 30 2011, 04:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,711 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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I like the tie wrap idea. I have to check next time I take the engine out if the boltis tapered.
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| iamchappy |
Dec 30 2011, 05:21 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Are you sure you had it positioned right, it sort of sits in a cradle when it's aligned.
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| rgalla9146 |
Dec 30 2011, 05:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,554 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Krieger @ Dec 30 2011, 02:10 PM)  I like the tie wrap idea. I have to check next time I take the engine out if the boltis tapered. Is the transaxle raised all the way to its' mounts ? Don't even try until it is. Have a drift pin ? use that first to align the front mount Use a 19mm short socket on a 10 " extension so that your hands are free of any interference. The two tangs on the nut plate allow enough play so that the bolt starts with no problem' Also I've found it much easier to install a 6 engine without the two side tins installed. Install them afterward, it 's a bit tight but very do-able. '- |
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| Krieger |
Dec 30 2011, 07:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,711 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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I did have it raised to the one of the trans mounts and almost at the other. The front was making contact. I had the front bolt in, it just wasn't threading.
rgalla do you remember if your bolt tapered? Thanks guys maybe it was just off a little? |
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| carr914 |
Dec 31 2011, 06:34 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,670 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I remember when I was putting Steve Gagliones' motor back in his GT. We were doing on his Garage Floor with the car jacked up. Of course the car was an angle to the floor which caused things not to line up. I got the Tranny Mount Bolts in and Steve was putting the Engine Bolt in. He was turning it for ever. I looked at it and the bolt wasn't far enough up. I grabbed a hammer and he freaked (Funny if you know Steve and his car). I just tapped the end of the bolt a few times to move it up a little, then threaded it in like butter.
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| rgalla9146 |
Dec 31 2011, 09:25 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,554 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Dec 31 2011, 04:34 AM) I remember when I was putting Steve Gagliones' motor back in his GT. We were doing on his Garage Floor with the car jacked up. Of course the car was an angle to the floor which caused things not to line up. I got the Tranny Mount Bolts in and Steve was putting the Engine Bolt in. He was turning it for ever. I looked at it and the bolt wasn't far enough up. I grabbed a hammer and he freaked (Funny if you know Steve and his car). I just tapped the end of the bolt a few times to move it up a little, then threaded it in like butter. Hey Tom, 4:31 AM Wow ! I would gladly look at my front bolts today to see if they are tapered but they are holding engines up The angle of the car and engine leads to difficulty. If you are trying to slide the engine forward onto correctly installed (with the bolts hanging out of the rear mounts ) trans bolts that makes it tough. I've turned the bolts over to simplify installation. When you have the eng/trans well balanced, lift it into position and apply some force to hold it against the mounts. Just enough so that you can still move it with a drift pin, big hefty punch or even a big phillips screwdriver. With a 914 it can be a bit tight and un-nerving to have to go under a un-attached engine and start pushing and pulling. Get the two rears started first. Not tight. Then get a view up into the front mount and align the parts. Toms idea to tap the front bolt up through the mount is good. Then, as you turn you should feel it thread. |
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| Krieger |
Dec 31 2011, 10:58 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,711 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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I must have been so dang close, plus I was a virgin so it was awkward, but I got it in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Next time It will be like butter.
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| Chris Pincetich |
Dec 31 2011, 02:00 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Great way to end the year! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 31 2011, 02:48 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Dec 31 2011, 04:34 AM) I remember when I was putting Steve Gagliones' motor back in his GT. We were doing on his Garage Floor with the car jacked up. Of course the car was an angle to the floor which caused things not to line up. I got the Tranny Mount Bolts in and Steve was putting the Engine Bolt in. He was turning it for ever. I looked at it and the bolt wasn't far enough up. I grabbed a hammer and he freaked (Funny if you know Steve and his car). I just tapped the end of the bolt a few times to move it up a little, then threaded it in like butter. I don't need to know Steve to know that if it was my car, I would remove all the hammers from the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That'll probably be a quarter million dollar car someday... History, rarity and all... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| carr914 |
Dec 31 2011, 04:48 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,670 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Dec 31 2011, 03:48 PM) QUOTE(carr914 @ Dec 31 2011, 04:34 AM) I remember when I was putting Steve Gagliones' motor back in his GT. We were doing on his Garage Floor with the car jacked up. Of course the car was an angle to the floor which caused things not to line up. I got the Tranny Mount Bolts in and Steve was putting the Engine Bolt in. He was turning it for ever. I looked at it and the bolt wasn't far enough up. I grabbed a hammer and he freaked (Funny if you know Steve and his car). I just tapped the end of the bolt a few times to move it up a little, then threaded it in like butter. I don't need to know Steve to know that if it was my car, I would remove all the hammers from the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That'll probably be a quarter million dollar car someday... History, rarity and all... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yeah but it was funny. Not as funny as the The Shredded Chicken that his wife left us. Steve turned on the Stove and put it on a burner while we were working. It was black in the Pan when we got finished. Steve wanted to throw the Pan away, but he knew Janie would kill him for that too. She called me the next day and apologized for Steve not buying a Pizza or something. |
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| Krieger |
Dec 31 2011, 06:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,711 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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The front bolt is the original tapered one! I guess I was not going in straight. Next time.
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