Rear Pickup Points Reinforcing Kit, Tangerine Racing?? Options

[EdArango]

I'm the original poster. The reason I asked if there is another vendor wasn't based on price........I can pay the $400 bucks!! MONEY ISN'T THE ISSUE.

I wanted to see any other options out there and what I actually get for $400 bucks....GEEZ!!

Ed

[rfuerst911sc]

I'm the original poster. The reason I asked if there is another vendor wasn't based on price........I can pay the $400 bucks!! MONEY ISN'T THE ISSUE.

I wanted to see any other options out there and what I actually get for $400 bucks....GEEZ!!

Ed

Maybe folks thought price was the issue when you said " Is there someone else that produces this at a more reasonable price?? ". Just saying (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[mepstein]

I'm the original poster. The reason I asked if there is another vendor wasn't based on price........I can pay the $400 bucks!! MONEY ISN'T THE ISSUE.


Ed

Ed - That's good to know....I'm here for you buddy....
I have a set that look a lot like the ones pictured above but they come in a really fancy box. I'll sell them for $2000. Any time I can help you out, just let me know. Your friend, mark

[scotty b]

I'm the original poster. The reason I asked if there is another vendor wasn't based on price........I can pay the $400 bucks!! MONEY ISN'T THE ISSUE.

I wanted to see any other options out there and what I actually get for $400 bucks....GEEZ!!

Ed

Maybe folks thought price was the issue when you said " Is there someone else that produces this at a more reasonable price?? ". Just saying (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) When you make these, keep track of your time, your materials,your electric bill, your consumables and all of your friends time. Figure the time out by whatever you make for a living and get back to us as to what is a reasonable price for this kit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[jmill]

I just priced out the heim joints at Pegasus. Your looking at $150 on the cheap. That's carbon steel rod ends with weldable tube ends. If you go with oversize shank alloy rod ends with a nickel plated race lined with PTFE fabric your looking at $280. That's just for the joints. I'd have a hard time coming in under $400 just for materials doing it myself.

OTOH - I could cob some angle iron in there for little to nothing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/teef.gif)

[brant]

from my racecar:

[andys]

I just priced out the heim joints at Pegasus. Your looking at $150 on the cheap. That's carbon steel rod ends with weldable tube ends. If you go with oversize shank alloy rod ends with a nickel plated race lined with PTFE fabric your looking at $280. That's just for the joints. I'd have a hard time coming in under $400 just for materials doing it myself.

OTOH - I could cob some angle iron in there for little to nothing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/teef.gif)

You point is well taken, however IMO you don't need premium grade super high strength rod ends for this application. I used 7/16" heims rated at over 10,000 lbs from McMaster-Carr for $15 each.

But again your premise is sound; you still need to create a design, chase-down the parts, fabicate the plates and rods, and so on. I also chose to have the rods yellow zinc plated, so add yet more time and cost.

Andys

[Elliot Cannon]

What is the advantage of removable strengthening rods as opposed to welded other than the fact that they are removable?

[mepstein]

What is the advantage of removable strengthening rods as opposed to welded other than the fact that they are removable?

Engine access is one. Might be other reasons.

[Elliot Cannon]

I just re-read the whole thread and I see that now. I would be worried about a slight bit of play unless like it was stated in one of the previous posts they where machined to fit very snug. Good info in this thread.

[ChrisFoley]

Removable rods are absolutely required for a -4 with full tin or for a -6.
The left and right threaded rod ends make installation/removal simple.
Non-threaded removable rods could be used but precise installation/welding would be critical.
I use fairly inexpensive (non teflon) 3/8" rod ends in my kit but they're sufficiently strong and tight for the application, which is static (ie. no motion).
Only 10% of the value of the complete kit is in the rod ends.
7/16" is overkill IMO, the bending loads are real small and 3/8" is fine in tension/compression.
The mounting brackets for the heim braces, made in-house, are more costly than they may appear - they require specialized tooling and precise fabrication.
I include long bolts to attach the rod ends because shorter bolts would have the threads inside the hole, allowing movement in the assembly.
The tubes are 1" od x .065w Chrome-Moly (primed only), which is plenty stiff without adding much weight.
We weld the threaded bushings in-house.
All the sheetmetal is CNC plama-cut and formed, in-house.
I think I've done about everything I can to control costs without cheating on the value of the final product.

[JRust]

I've bought 2 of the suspension ear reinforcement from Chris! He makes a great product & it is worth every penny. If you don't want the complete kit. Just by the ear reinforcement & do whatever you want for the brace to the firewall. After seeing many suspension ear cracks. I will be adding the reinforcement piece to every 914 I buy. Just good insurance against a break. I won't add the brace to the firewall on a Daily driver. If your autoxing then go full out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[J P Stein]

Removable rods are absolutely required for a -4 with full tin or for a -6.

This is not true on many levels....not the least of which is the fact that the engine
installation with sheet metal in place is not required on a six. This makes moot the fact that my set up clears the tin.

[0396]

[quote name='JRust' date='Jan 6 2012, 09:16 PM' post='1600949']
I've bought 2 of the suspension ear reinforcement from Chris! He makes a great product & it is worth every penny. If you don't want the complete kit. Just by the ear reinforcement & do whatever you want for the brace to the firewall. After seeing many suspension ear cracks. I will be adding the reinforcement piece to every 914 I buy. Just good insurance against a break. I won't add the brace to the firewall on a Daily driver. If your autoxing then go full out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



Question for Chris.. I order a suspension ear reinforcement from Chris' site this morning. My question is , do the reinforcememts come 'prebent' to mold to the suspension ear as pictured on his web site?

[ChrisFoley]

Question for Chris.. I order a suspension ear reinforcement from Chris' site this morning. My question is , do the reinforcememts come 'prebent' to mold to the suspension ear as pictured on his web site?

The Paypal link has a pulldown menu to select either flat or prebent.I believe you ordered the flat ones.

[0396]

Question for Chris.. I order a suspension ear reinforcement from Chris' site this morning. My question is , do the reinforcememts come 'prebent' to mold to the suspension ear as pictured on his web site?

The Paypal link has a pulldown menu to select either flat or prebent.I believe you ordered the flat ones.

I did not see the pull down.. can you please sends prebent?.... I revisited your site and figured it out.. If you've sent it, I'll deal with it.

Thanks

[EdwardBlume]

I bought the ear reinforcements too and they work great.... at least I think so... I'll let you know if they fail in the next 35 years or so... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)