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Eric_Shea |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Well... the 914-6 is done. All the rubber, seals, bumpers windows etc. have been put back in. Last task was to clean out and install the gas tank. I used new lines up front and none are pinched etc. The car won't start.
I can't hear the pump. I can usually detect the whine and hear the gurgles in the tank once it starts. I checked the wiring to the pump and it is fine. Does the fuel pump need to be primed after the tank has come out?? Help me with the final step... Thanks! |
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Not another one! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 ![]() ![]() |
The fuel pump should make noise even if it needs priming. Indeed, it will probably make MORE noise. Try touching the pump with the key on and see if you can feel it operating. I always try to use at least one clear or translucent fuel filter in the line on carb'd systems so I can see fuel flowing.
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seanery |
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waiting to rebuild whitey! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None ![]() |
It's probably that small motor. I heard those things aren't worth having! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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Eric_Shea |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
I'll bet it's running but I just can't hear it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I'll go check it with the key on... |
Eric_Shea |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Pump no workie... I pulled the plug while the key was on. While replacing it you can hear a solenoid type clicking sound from the pump as I plug the wires back on.
Do these fuel pumps go bad at any given time or is this because it sat dry for a couple of months? Or... is there anything else that might breath life into this pump? |
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Not another one! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 ![]() ![]() |
Before I blamed the pump, I'd check for a good ground there, and make sure you're really seeing +12 out of the wire to it, and not, say, +8 or something. Try running a pair of fat (14g) wires directly from the battery posts to the pump terminals, too. If that doesn't make it go whirrr, THEN I'd blame the pump.
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Sounds silly but check your fuses, and has anyone ever messed with the wiring under there? I have seen more than one car with a jumper switch that is a anti theft wich disconnects power to pump.
Ferg. |
Eric_Shea |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Checked the fuses first...
I'll get under there with a Vu Meter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
OK... There's power to the pump. Still no pump. Any other ideas before I yank this thing?
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waiting to rebuild whitey! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None ![]() |
tap it lightly with your 5lb sledge (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Pump's out.
Have I mentioned lately how much I love working with raw fuel? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Have I mentioned lately how much I love pulling fuel pumps out of 914's? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Does anyone have a 914-6 or an early 911 fuel pump they'd like to off? |
seanery |
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waiting to rebuild whitey! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None ![]() |
Eric,
why not replace it with a facet? I know it's a bit noisy, but I like the noise, it tells me it's working? They're pretty damn reasonable $-wise, too. |
Eric_Shea |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Because I'm the second caretaker of this car and it's bone stock... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
The Facet will go in the 914-6/GT project. |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Houston... we have ignition.
The little whore just wanted me to taker her out and wine her and dine her. After laying on my back for 5 minutes having gas drip down into my pits and crusty crust fall in my eyes, it was out. I put 12v to it an no-go. I cleaned it up a bit and decided I'd see what makes these things tick (or not tick in this case). I took the nose cone off and shocked her with another 12v. Whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... Smiling because I didn't have to spend a bundle getting a new pump ($345.00) and pissed because... well you know why! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) After laying on my back for 5 minutes having gas drip down into my pits and crusty crust fall in my eyes, it was in. I turned the key. Filled the bowls. Pumped the throttle and my measly little, worthless, good for nothing 2.0 stock six whoof whoofed to life. And it sounds AWESOME! And I Liiiiiiiiike it!! Couldn't be easy could it?!?! |
seanery |
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waiting to rebuild whitey! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None ![]() |
congrats Eric!
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,687 Joined: 24-December 02 From: SF, CA Member No.: 4 Region Association: None ![]() |
same thing happened to me before when my car sat unused for an extended period of time. tapping it with a hammer fixed it.
where are the final pics?? |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,301 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Just Posted them... "Fixing the Sixes"
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