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> If you dont know the right way..., 5 Lug conversion rear machining
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post Aug 29 2004, 02:46 PM
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Here's an example of what not to do. This guy came to me and said his wheels didnt fit right on his car and he has a vibration at higher speeds. He also said he did his own 5-lug conversion.
For those of you who dont have the right tools to do this dont do it. Also use quality parts too. The carnage is below.
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post Aug 29 2004, 02:48 PM
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Cheap wheel studs.....Looks like Bug Pack strikes again


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post Aug 29 2004, 02:48 PM
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These were then Hammer in.


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post Aug 29 2004, 02:49 PM
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Heres his way of countersinking.


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post Aug 29 2004, 02:51 PM
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He use a hand drill to make this. They werent straight and the holes were not milled right for the studs to sit flush. Here is the correct way to do it. Dont mind the piece of bearing still on the hub.


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post Aug 29 2004, 02:53 PM
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Come on... everyone is trying to save a buck or two... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It takes 5 minutes to do it right. It takes 5 hours to fix it when it is wrong.


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post Aug 29 2004, 02:57 PM
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Not only that, he's out the whole $2.95 or whatever he spent on studs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Plus new bearings at $35 a pop.

Didnt save a dime. Cost more in the long run.
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post Aug 29 2004, 02:59 PM
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are the hubs really strong enuff for the studs to hold without any additional bossed or hub thickness? i had a set and they were way to thin to put studs on IMHO without any sort of backing/boss
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post Aug 29 2004, 03:01 PM
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This is why I get BIG money for the early rear hubs with the raised bosses for 5 lug. It has both patterns cast into it. I stopped counting how many conversion cars have loose rear studs because of the thin material.


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post Aug 29 2004, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Aug 29 2004, 01:01 PM)
This is why I get BIG money for the early rear hubs with the raised bosses for 5 lug. It has both patterns cast into it. I stopped counting how many conversion cars have loose rear studs because of the thin material.


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I figure I can sell my rear hubs and oil tank and get enuff to retire.....plan A.

Plan B is work till I die......
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post Aug 29 2004, 09:59 PM
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Damn, my plan A is your plan B.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 29 2004, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(markb @ Aug 29 2004, 08:59 PM)
Damn, my plan A is your plan B.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

whats ur plan b? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif)

play the lotto until your broke? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 29 2004, 10:02 PM
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I haven't even made plans..

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post Aug 29 2004, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Aug 29 2004, 05:01 PM)
This is why I get BIG money for the early rear hubs with the raised bosses for 5 lug. It has both patterns cast into it. I stopped counting how many conversion cars have loose rear studs because of the thin material.

Yup, I actually switched from the thin hubs to the early hubs with the raised bosses. Just piece of mind.

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post Aug 29 2004, 11:38 PM
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What about...

1. Machine off all bosses on the late style hub to get a nice flat circle.
2. Get a ring made of steel that you can then weld onto the newly machined surface.
3. Drill your holes and install your lugs in your new 360 degree thick hub.

Well?
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post Aug 29 2004, 11:45 PM
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30lbs of rotating mass... We actually had a set of those floating around the shop. They weigh a ton when you are done.

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post Aug 30 2004, 12:01 AM
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or, you could just get a set of these ...

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post Aug 30 2004, 12:38 AM
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Spoken like a racer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)
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post Aug 30 2004, 04:34 AM
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Brad, Andy's showing off again. (hahahahaha) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 30 2004, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Aug 29 2004, 02:01 PM)
This is why I get BIG money for the early rear hubs with the raised bosses for 5 lug. It has both patterns cast into it. I stopped counting how many conversion cars have loose rear studs because of the thin material.


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For re-drilled (and studded?) early model hubs, how many places to the left of the decimal point are we talking about filling?

Is installing converted 5 lug hubs a 'simple' (250 ft/lb) bolt on? If so, then I wouldn't need to source new stub axles, rotors, and calipers or worry about the parking brake issue either.
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