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| SirAndy |
 Aug 29 2004, 08:48 PM
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Resident German  Group: Admin Posts: 42,359 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California  |
QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Aug 29 2004, 07:22 PM) Didn't catch exactly what happened to the tranny. Was your vent clogged or in the wrong direction? looks like the main shaft seal blew out completely as soon as i put some real torque through the tranny with the new motor ... never ending story ... <_< Andy |
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| rick 918-S |
Aug 29 2004, 09:14 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 21,110 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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That sux! What a mess!
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| machina |
Aug 29 2004, 09:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848  |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 29 2004, 10:48 PM) looks like the main shaft seal blew out completely as soon as i put some real torque through the tranny with the new motor ... never ending story ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Andy that doesn't make me feel to good. my tranny is definitely an unknown right now. It came from my parts car, never ran it actually. We'll see how it likes 7500 rpm from GA. Anything I can do to check the tranny without breaking it down. I don't think I can tackle a tranny rebuild right now. dr |
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| Joseph Mills |
Aug 29 2004, 11:30 PM
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on a Sonoma diet now... Group: Members Posts: 1,482 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Oklahoma City, OK Member No.: 39 |
Dave,
I just went thru the same experience as Andy - leaking seal. In my case, after rebuilding the tranny, we finaly discovered the "spring" that fits around the inner "collar" of the rubber seal (main shaft) had popped off in reassembly. Cups of fluid on the ground after each test drive. Since you've never ran your tranny, if you have a clutch disk - put it on the MS and turn it and confirm that it at least makes all gear changes. You can drain the old fluid and refresh. Clean out the magnetic oil plug. The MS oil seal is only five dollars - easy to replace. Next would be what you said you don't want to do - remove the rear cover and inspect your low gear syncro and slider gear, or pull the intermediate plate and inspect all. |
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| machina |
Aug 30 2004, 05:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
Thanks for the tip, how do you test each gear? I could only find 4, with the selector shaft all the way up or all the way down.
My main hope for the tranny is based on a bill for work done to the car in late 1999. Guy spent $1,600 at local well known P car shop on all tranny seals, and new clutch, TO bearing. Figured he wouldn't have spent that much on the tranny if it was not shifting OK. dr |
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| rhodyguy |
Aug 30 2004, 07:17 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,252 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
wow!!! hard to imagine the mess could creep into the engine compartment too. what's the story with the engine mount bar? the extra trianglular piece. the story with the blue twine wrapped around the wiring? this thread will be of interest to other members sticking higher hp/torque engines in their cars.
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| machina |
Aug 30 2004, 07:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 30 2004, 09:17 AM) what's the story with the engine mount bar? the extra trianglular piece. the story with the blue twine wrapped around the wiring Good eye, looks like a custom mount bar. How much weight does it save? dr |
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| Joseph Mills |
Aug 30 2004, 08:42 AM
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on a Sonoma diet now... Group: Members Posts: 1,482 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Oklahoma City, OK Member No.: 39 |
QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Aug 30 2004, 05:52 AM) Thanks for the tip, how do you test each gear? I could only find 4, with the selector shaft all the way up or all the way down. My main hope for the tranny is based on a bill for work done to the car in late 1999. Guy spent $1,600 at local well known P car shop on all tranny seals, and new clutch, TO bearing. Figured he wouldn't have spent that much on the tranny if it was not shifting OK. dr You are probably just "missing" your shift point in your testing. It also takes a certain amount of "firmness" - especially with good syncros. Clutch, TO & seals constitute about 350.00 in parts. So 1250.00 for labor seems high. He may have had some syncros, etc. replaced. The tranny is pretty easy to install and remove. If you don't want to open it up for inspection, your alternative is to just install and test in the car. It may all be fine. If not, you can drop the tranny in 1/2 hour. |
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| machina |
Aug 30 2004, 08:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
QUOTE(joseph222 @ Aug 30 2004, 10:42 AM) If you don't want to open it up for inspection, your alternative is to just install and test in the car. It may all be fine. If not, you can drop the tranny in 1/2 hour. Thanks Joseph, I think I am going to opt for the latter choice of testing and hope for the best. You never know with these old trannys. dr |
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| SirAndy |
Aug 30 2004, 10:04 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,359 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 30 2004, 06:17 AM) wow!!! hard to imagine the mess could creep into the engine compartment too. what's the story with the engine mount bar? the extra trianglular piece. the story with the blue twine wrapped around the wiring? this thread will be of interest to other members sticking higher hp/torque engines in their cars. the bar came with the engine, supposedly stronger than stock. seems to weight about the same. the "blue twine" was used to keep the fuel-line and wires off the engine tin and has since been replaced with zip-ties .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Andy |
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| Joe Bob |
Aug 31 2004, 08:49 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Nobody ever mentions the smell....transmission oil has got to be the nastiest smell ever...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
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