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Brake Pedal Adjust? |
richardL |
Sep 4 2004, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
I was trying to fit the new pedal board I have and it won't fit as it keeps binding on the brake pedal. When I played with the pedal I can move it off of the rest towards the master cylinder about 3/4" using one finger. I believe the free play should be closer to 1mm?
Anyhow it seems to me that I should be adjusting the rubber stop forwards to reduce the play - and this would move the rest position of the pedal forwards and reduce the free play and hence also the pedal board to fit in. Is that correct? or am I missing something? OK... How do I do that adjustment? I can't see any way of moving the rubber stop towards the front of the car as it is attached to the bearing tube. Essentially I am trying to stop the spring pushing the pedal up too far, but I can't see how to make that adjustment. I think I have read that the pedal height is adjustable? Hope this is clear, Thanks, Richard |
Jeroen |
Sep 4 2004, 06:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Weird...
Loosen the nuts on the MC and see if you can move it down (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
Sep 4 2004, 07:07 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
That is F'd up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I wonder how the MC clears the cross bar for the front suspension ??
Shoot a pick with the splash pan off pointing up towards the MC. [B] |
richardL |
Sep 4 2004, 07:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
All looks OK...
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richardL |
Sep 4 2004, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
Sorry about the focus...
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redshift |
Sep 5 2004, 01:20 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
The rod is properly seated?
What is up with that... seems like the whole shooting match is forward.. Please remove that piece of pinestraw, that is one of my pet peaves. M |
davep |
Sep 5 2004, 12:04 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,151 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I don't like the looks of the master, it seems the lines are not hooked up in the usual fashion.
The cluster must sit flush with the floor, no question there. I'd be yanking the cluster out of there first and seeing why it does not fit properly. |
richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 12:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
So the cluster should be flush with the floor from the two bolts through the floor, and follow the contour around to the two studs that the MC hangs on? As I said, there is a triangular gap where the floor turns into the firewall. I'll try to take a picture.
Might be worthwhile for me to go and eyeball another car just to compare. I'll also check the MC connections. R |
Engman |
Sep 5 2004, 01:13 PM
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Zoisite Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,349 Joined: 25-March 03 From: New Albany, IN Member No.: 475 |
Pull the cluster. lets see what is in there. Shoot some pics. Now is a good time to replace the shift bushings. Cheap too.
M |
richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 02:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
your wish is my command....
I pulled the cluster and took some pictures. I couldn't see in all the crud and no one mentioned that there is actually nearly 1/2" of possible variation in the position of the pedal cluster. The lower alignment areas (on the studs through the floor) are actually grooves rather than holes. (see the first picture). In my case the studs were positioned at the very front of the grooves - which puts the pedal about 1/2" further back than they could be - and hence (I think) my problem. Attached thumbnail(s) |
richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
and the reason I think is because of two things.
1) The firewall end of the cluster is distorted. I hope it shows in this picture but the part that touches the firewall is not flat Attached thumbnail(s) |
richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 02:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
and (2) it looks like the firewall at this point is actually bent - maybe it had an impact at some point in its life
I hope this shows up... Attached thumbnail(s) |
richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 02:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
...inside view....
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seanery |
Sep 5 2004, 02:49 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
looks pushed in 1/4 to 1/2" huh?
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richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
So...
Considering that aesthetics are not important, should I just reassemble as is and consider it withing tolerance (since the studs still fit through the hole). Or should I try to 'massage' the firewall and the cluster end a little to grab back some adjustement. I can live with my cutaway pedal board rather than Engman's masterpiece. Is there any downside? Thanks again for the advice, Richard |
richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 02:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(seanery @ Sep 5 2004, 01:49 PM) looks pushed in 1/4 to 1/2" huh? Yep. |
sgomes |
Sep 5 2004, 02:56 PM
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Electric Member Group: Members Posts: 815 Joined: 6-May 04 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 2,029 |
My 2cents is always the same 2cents: Fix it right. Get a drift and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) You will be far more satisfied when you're done (and you get to use that shiny new pedal board!)
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seanery |
Sep 5 2004, 02:57 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Shannon, your avatar looks like a clown that was in a short film a couple years ago. Is that where it came from?
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sgomes |
Sep 5 2004, 03:03 PM
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Electric Member Group: Members Posts: 815 Joined: 6-May 04 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 2,029 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) No, it's really me! It was for a scavenger hunt game I play in a couple of times a year.
The Game Attached thumbnail(s) |
richardL |
Sep 5 2004, 03:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 201 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(sgomes @ Sep 5 2004, 01:56 PM) Fix it right. Get a drift and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Obvious answer to a stupid question - I don't know why I even asked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I will go and bash it a bit... Richard |
Engman |
Sep 5 2004, 04:10 PM
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Zoisite Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,349 Joined: 25-March 03 From: New Albany, IN Member No.: 475 |
Yep - its pushed in.... time for (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) .
I am betting that the brakes will feel better as well . M |
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