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| ninefourteener |
 Sep 10 2004, 10:10 AM
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Perfectly Normal Guy :)  Group: Members Posts: 1,216 Joined: 3-June 03 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 779  |
Ok.... I've spent so much time/effort/money on the RSX lately, I've almost ignored the teener all summer.
What can I say? I've owed the car 1.5 years, and the only repair I've made was a battery. The only upgrades I've done have been stereo related, my side decals, or my front spoiler. I still drive it regularly (2 or 3 times a week), wash/clean it obsessively, and love it to death... but I've got an "itch" for a major change. The 914 sits in the garage all winter.... and winter is coming. Perfect opportunity to do major changes. I'm actually contemplating flaring the car. Call me crazy, but I kinda like the look of the bolt-on fenders better than the typical "molded-in" fenders. Plus, there's all kinds of advantages..... like the lack of a need for paint... among many others. So.......... can we post some pictures of bolt-on flared cars? Procedures for doing it right? Will bolt-on flares interfere with my marker lights? Do the come in different sizes? Where can I buy them? How much do they cost? As always.. this site rocks! Thanks!! Matt |
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| Aaron Cox |
Sep 10 2004, 10:12 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
dude. dont do this to one of the finer examples of a 914. buy another one and start over, just MHO. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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| ArtechnikA |
Sep 10 2004, 10:19 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(ninefourteener @ Sep 10 2004, 08:10 AM) Call me crazy... Where can I buy them? How much do they cost? done. skinny wheels in flares looks stupid, so are you going to do the full 5-lug conversion and wide 911 wheels, or are you going to use custom 4-lug wheels ? there are no off-the-shelf bolt-on flares. you'll be starting (presumptively) with the standard glass flares and figuring out a way to make them permanently temporary. why wouldn't they need paint ? glass flares are cheap. everything else adds up in a hurry. |
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| ninefourteener |
Sep 10 2004, 10:22 AM
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Perfectly Normal Guy :) Group: Members Posts: 1,216 Joined: 3-June 03 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 779 |
QUOTE(acox914 @ Sep 10 2004, 08:12 AM) dude. dont do this to one of the finer examples of a 914. buy another one and start over, just MHO. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Strangely enough, I've actually considered selling this one (I've kept all the original parts). Although I appreciate the "trueness" of the teener, I find myself missing my previous hobby...... classic GM muscle. I'm a Hot-Rodder by nature..... not a purist..... and I can't help but draw my self to the "racy" 914s. I love the wild/modified race car 914s. I bought mine before I discovered e-bay, or even the 914 club. If I did it all over again, I would have gone with a flared, V-8 conversion car. But I partially financed the car. Although it is worth WAY more than I owe on it.. I'm going to run into problems selling it on e-bay because of the lein.. that will turn off a lot of people. What can I say... I'm a bit torn on what to do here. |
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| ninefourteener |
Sep 10 2004, 10:26 AM
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Perfectly Normal Guy :) Group: Members Posts: 1,216 Joined: 3-June 03 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 779 |
QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Sep 10 2004, 08:19 AM) QUOTE(ninefourteener @ Sep 10 2004, 08:10 AM) Call me crazy... Where can I buy them? How much do they cost? done. skinny wheels in flares looks stupid, so are you going to do the full 5-lug conversion and wide 911 wheels, or are you going to use custom 4-lug wheels ? there are no off-the-shelf bolt-on flares. you'll be starting (presumptively) with the standard glass flares and figuring out a way to make them permanently temporary. why wouldn't they need paint ? glass flares are cheap. everything else adds up in a hurry. If I flare the car, I'd go with a "normal" 5 lug conversion, so I had a wide variety of wheels to choose from. I'd go with a 5x114 17 inch wheel I've seen pics of cars with fenders bolted on, the flares were kept black, and the car was it's regular color.. it looked good. The flares actually had "molded" bolt-holes in them though. I know I saw it.. I'm not crazy--LOL I think (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| Root_Werks |
Sep 10 2004, 10:33 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,319 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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I say get what makes you happy or keep what makes you happy. I have a buddy who has a Eagle Talon. He just loves that thing, I hate it. But I don't tell him that, what do I care? He likes the car and that is ALL that matters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| ArtechnikA |
Sep 10 2004, 11:36 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(ninefourteener @ Sep 10 2004, 08:26 AM) I'd go with a 5x114 I've seen pics of cars with fenders bolted on... The flares actually had "molded" bolt-holes in them though. 5 x 114 ? "cars"? or 914's ? 934's used pop-rivet flares. lots of cars have screw-on flares. donno that i've seen commercially available off-the-shelf 'externally-attachable' 914 flares, but i don't claim to know every product available. lots of racer guys use Dzus or similar quarter-turn fasteners to secure flares and other body parts, but that's all custom fabrication... it's your car, do what you want ... |
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| SpecialK |
Sep 10 2004, 11:56 AM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797  |
I think Scott Schroeder's 'Martini' styled car is about the best example of bolt/rivet on flares I've seen. Looks like he made a wrong turn at LeMans and ended up on I-70. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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| Mueller |
Sep 10 2004, 12:07 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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AFAIK, there was only 1 company that made a true "bolt-on" flare and it was/is about the ugliest flare I've ever seen on a 914....it came from one of the Becks....son or father, cannot remember which one, it's been a long time since I've seen a picture of a car with them on
most of the flares that you've seen that appear to be bolted on are just 'glass flares that instead of blending them to the fenders, and covering up the pop-rivets or button head screws with a nut on the far side... they left them unfinished (you still want to paint or primer them depending on color and finish) just do a search here for how to install 'glass flares...when it comes to the part about blending the flares to the fenders ...STOP and you pretty much have what you want. you'll still have to cut the stock fender opening and trim the flare....i like the look depending on the car....Randal here in the Bay Area has these style flares |
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| Aaron Cox |
Sep 10 2004, 12:24 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Sep 10 2004, 11:07 AM) I like the look depending on the car....Randal here in the Bay Area has these style flares but randals are complementary colors on his car. silver and blue.. but also its a TRACK CAR. where FUNCTION comes before FORM |
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| anthony |
Sep 10 2004, 12:55 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
Don't forget about costs. A 5 lug conversion done right (new pads, rotors, lines, etc) runs $1500. Big wide Fuchs, tires, and spacers to fit under the flares will run $2000+. That still doesn't include the cost of the flares.
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| BMartin914 |
Sep 10 2004, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE I think Scott Schroeder's 'Martini' styled car is about the best example of bolt/rivet on flares I've seen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Scott's car is one of the only flared cars that I like the look of -- primarily because his flares are bolt on. scott's car rocks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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| Brett W |
Sep 10 2004, 02:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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What am I chopped liver? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)
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| lagunero |
Sep 10 2004, 02:31 PM
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Donkey Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,042 Joined: 8-January 04 From: orange county,ca Member No.: 1,531 |
QUOTE(Brett W @ Sep 10 2004, 01:22 PM) What am I chopped liver? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) Due to the Nascar style wheels your submission has been disqualified (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) J/K, nice car and a great example for this discussion |
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| Brett W |
Sep 10 2004, 02:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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OH I see how your gonna be. CCW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
At the time I liked the look at and they were 225 for 15x8 inch wheels that weighed 20 lbs each. Damn steel tarrifs have made those not such a good option right now. Might go to a 5 lug if I can get a set of 8-9 inch wheels that I think look good on the car. HAve thought about having a set of 9 inch Kodiak customs made but I am having a hard time swallowing 1200+ for a set of wheels. Although a 16 will be easier to find tires for. |
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| URY914 |
Sep 11 2004, 07:02 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,544 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Do a search for "GT flares".
I'm about to update my never ending thread showing me adding flares to my car. I now have them both rear one mounted and the one primed. The fronts are done. ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) ) Paul |
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| Trekkor |
Sep 11 2004, 09:05 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Randal's
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| ninefourteener |
Sep 13 2004, 07:56 AM
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Perfectly Normal Guy :) Group: Members Posts: 1,216 Joined: 3-June 03 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 779 |
YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH.... now thats what I'm talking about!
Trekkor and Brett's cars ROCK! That's the look that I was talking about! Ok.. so maybe I was a bit confused.... those are just regular fiberglass flares that have been bolted on? They aren't a "different" kind of flare? Also..... to you "bolt-on" guys..... are the flares going to interfere with my marker lights? Here's a recent pic of my car... I'm thinking leaving the flares black, would go well with the whole black/green theme of my car. Whattaya think? Attached image(s) 
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| Trekkor |
Sep 13 2004, 08:09 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
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I like the look as well, my car is the white one in my avatar. I posted Randal's race car pic for you. He has it attached with large pop rivets and black fender welting trim around the edges as it touches the painted surface. Very clean install. Side maker lights can stay if you like. Randal has large Koni stickers covering his openings. Black on green...mean (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) KT |
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| Brett W |
Sep 13 2004, 09:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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My marker lights are gone anyways so it is a non issue. I am going to add Beetle fender welting to mine when I repaint this winter.
Yes my flares are just standard AIR fender flares, I fitted them and drilled the bolt holes to the pattern that I liked. |
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