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QUICK, WHAT ARE PORSCHE AND VW PARTS ON 914? |
RickS |
Feb 28 2012, 08:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
Need you backing in an online debate on how much true Porsche it is versus made and assembled by VW.
True Porsche designed and manufactued is the 901 2.0 motor and front suspension, but what else?? The 914 uses more or less the same Type IV engine that was in the 411, 412, and late Transporter (Bus, Vanagon). |
76-914 |
Feb 28 2012, 08:38 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,502 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I think the 2.0 was their baby. I also heard that mfg dates effect the correct answer.
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Tom_T |
Feb 28 2012, 08:41 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Debate killers:
914 was a joint venture project - VW-Porsche - which built both 4s & 6s, and which Porsche bought out VW in 1974 IIRC (or thereabouts). 356 started as a Porsche body/chassis with a VW motor - souped-up a bit, and many other running gear & other parts, plus a mish-mash of parts from various suppliers & used on other European cars, & which varied within model years. It wasn't pure Porsche either! The 924/944/968 was a VW designed by Porsche for VW with an Audi/VW motor, which Porsche took over from VW when they passed on producing it, so it too was in fact a VW built by Porsche. Moreover, many think that any & all water-cooled Porsches aren't "real Porsches"! So what really is a NARP? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I say that the 914 naysayers/NARPies are so full of themselves & uniformed! Therefore, they really don't warrant much attention, since you probably won't change their mind in any case! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
Tom_T |
Feb 28 2012, 08:45 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
I think the 2.0 was their baby. I also heard that mfg dates effect the correct answer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The Porsche racing engineer who designed the 917 motor did the 2.0 /4. There's a topic on O&H on that... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...44&t=101937 |
Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 28 2012, 08:55 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Need you backing in an online debate on how much true Porsche it is versus made and assembled by VW. True Porsche designed and manufactued is the 901 and front suspension, but what else?? Actually, the 914 gearbox (the one you call a 901) was probably manufactured under license by VW. The suspension, while nearly the same as that of a 911, is different in some respects. As to the 2 liter engine being "Porsche", the heads are of Porsche design, the rest of the engine (except for the changes necessary to accommodate the head design and fitment to the car) is pure VW. The Cap'n |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 28 2012, 08:59 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE QUICK, WHAT ARE PORSCHE AND VW PARTS ON 914? ALL OF THEM! --DD |
SirAndy |
Feb 28 2012, 09:03 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,641 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
assembled by VW (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The cars were built and assembled by Karmann ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
RickS |
Feb 28 2012, 09:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
Thanks guys, that should be enough ammo.
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JeffBowlsby |
Feb 28 2012, 10:56 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Porsche designed the 914 for VW. When the 914/6 didn't sell well, it was dropped and Porsche developed the 2.0L/4, as a replacement, essentially upgrading the 1.7L.
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a914622 |
Feb 28 2012, 11:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 12-August 10 From: northwest Member No.: 12,048 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Realllly? You got into an online debate about what came first the chicken or the egg?
VW and porsche are like the Lexus/toyotas of today. Shared and different at the same time. As late as 1990 Porsche made a small run of vanagons with the porsche engine,brakes,tranny,and there own inside goodys. So ya I would say all of it is Porsche because the VW dealers never sold them! jcl |
Madswede |
Feb 28 2012, 11:44 PM
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Flat Out Driver Group: Members Posts: 853 Joined: 13-September 06 From: Rio Rancho NM Member No.: 6,831 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm not sure that this is a truly worthwhile debate topic. Not for nothing was the German version of the 914 badged as "VW-Porsche" after all. In my opinion, the appropriate response to the question in the topic heading is an emphatic "YES!" Dave Darling beat me to the punch on that one though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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mrholland2 |
Feb 29 2012, 12:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
Technically, aren't all VW's really Porsches by development and ancestry?
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euro911 |
Feb 29 2012, 01:42 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,849 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Yes, and VW currently owns Porsche.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 29 2012, 05:20 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Stupid topic for a debate. Its neither. its a 914.
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