Original, or not?, a '70/4 inspection, trying something new and/or different Options

[porbmw]

such as the wrong valance and rear view mirror ..and of course the LP..Ill keep look n
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'd gotten all the service records for this car when I purchased it in July 1975. There is/was no reference to replacing a mirror. The two references to the later style mirror in this thread correlate to what is shown in the Dr. Johnson 914 Authenticity Guide. I have never changed it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Paul

This is a good thread...I've already picked up on a couple of points.

RE the interior mirror, they were/are prone to fall off, and easy to stick a newer one on.
There are a few out there, but be careful, I bought a very nice one from a pretty high volume vendor who deals in Porsche parts, only to figure out it was not Porsche...looked pretty close

You have a big score re the porthole rear valance, sure don't see them around

Nice car

Paul

[6freak]

lenses and the 914 badge seems wrong ...shouldnt it read 1.7?
fun stuff
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

They didn't add the "1.7" until MY73

MY73 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Good catch on the valance appears to be a six valance but the hole seems a little more to the right then a six ...O the jack is supposed to have a piece of foam rubber stuff under it on the finder not the trunk floor
MikeC

[JeffBowlsby]

since we are at the rear, let's look in the trunk.....,...(though there's not much to see inside)

Is this the original trunk carpet? At least the later cars have a grommet for the spare tire tie down...not sure about earlier cars.

[JeffBowlsby]

sides....

The white plastic edge protection is missing from the large hole edges in the front long braces.

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

those are the welded in nuts for the suspension ...but hey it works ... i see no other changes in front trunk

Interesting, I didn't know that the suspension points were visible into the front trunk.

Paul

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

without the carpet (w/ stain that I can't get out)

The seam sealer around the rear shock towers does not look original. It should have been sprayed on, not brushed.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Sir Andy,
I understand that the early production cars had the seam sealer applied by hand with a brush, rather than the typically seen, later style sprayed app.
The accompanying pic shows the rear trunk before restoration.

Paul

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

it the VIN tag (the bigger one) original or repro?
the VIN looks more like engraved that hammered in - but difficult to tell from that pic ...

Wolfgang,
Everything is OEM, the sides of the front trunk have never been touched, only the floor was redone.

Paul

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

lenses and the 914 badge seems wrong ...shouldnt it read 1.7?
fun stuff
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

They didn't add the "1.7" until MY73

MY73 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Good catch on the valance appears to be a six valance but the hole seems a little more to the right then a six ...O the jack is supposed to have a piece of foam rubber stuff under it on the finder not the trunk floor
MikeC

Mike,
There is a piece of felt that matches the trunk material located on the side, just where the end of the jack point almost touches it. The pre-resto photo shows it better.

The valance is an early /4 valence.

Paul

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

since we are at the rear, let's look in the trunk.....,...(though there's not much to see inside)

Is this the original trunk carpet? At least the later cars have a grommet for the spare tire tie down...not sure about earlier cars.

Carpet is original.

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

sides....

The white plastic edge protection is missing from the large hole edges in the front long braces.

Jeff,

Car never had them.

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

now it's definitely clear that the Pedrinis were added later
this one is a MY'73 Pedrini (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif)

Wolfgang, once again you are correct. The mfg mark on the back side of the wheels indicate an 06/72 manufacturing date.

Paul

[6freak]

lenses and the 914 badge seems wrong ...shouldnt it read 1.7?
fun stuff
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

They didn't add the "1.7" until MY73

MY73 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Good catch on the valance appears to be a six valance but the hole seems a little more to the right then a six ...O the jack is supposed to have a piece of foam rubber stuff under it on the finder not the trunk floor......
MikeC

Mike,
There is a piece of felt that matches the trunk material located on the side, just where the end of the jack point almost touches it. The pre-resto photo shows it better.

The valance is an early /4 valence.

Paul

not what i was look n at and never seen anything in that area ...is it a stock piece.......the one i was talk n about gos on the finder just under the top of the jack ....mite be something PO put on mine to help protect the paint ....the earlie 4 bangers had a port hole valance ....I did not know that ...i thought it was only the 6 model...still learn n
whats MY73.??.... Manufacturing Year 1973

MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Gustl]

whats MY73.??.... Manufacturing Year 1973

modely year '73 => that's from August 1972 up to July 1973

[6freak]

lenses and the 914 badge seems wrong ...shouldnt it read 1.7?
fun stuff
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

They didn't add the "1.7" until MY73

MY73 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Good catch on the valance appears to be a six valance but the hole seems a little more to the right then a six ...O the jack is supposed to have a piece of foam rubber stuff under it on the finder not the trunk floor......
MikeC

Mike,
There is a piece of felt that matches the trunk material located on the side, just where the end of the jack point almost touches it. The pre-resto photo shows it better.

The valance is an early /4 valence.

Paul

not what i was look n at and never seen anything in that area ...is it a stock piece.......the one i was talk n about gos on the finder just under the top of the jack ....mite be something PO put on mine to help protect the paint ....the earlie 4 bangers had a port hole valance ....I did not know that ...i thought it was only the 6 model...still learn n
whats MY73.??.... Manufacturing Year 1973

MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

and the O ring is missing from the top of the jack as well...noticed i have one on mine last night

[sixerdon]

Confirming Paul's comments......

Rear trunk carpets came without the grommets in MY '70 & '71. Maybe '72 prior to moving the jack?

The plastic edge protectors in the front trunk holes were not installed on early cars. Not sure when they first appeared. They are on my '75.

The seam sealer on my Jan '70 /6 was also brushed on. A very light application much like Paul's. My 'March '70 /6 has all appearances of being sprayed on.

The small piece of "trunk material" or carpet/felt near the jack spur is glued to the side of the fender. Both of my /6's and my '71 /4 parts car all have/had this piece. AFAIK, that piece was always installed with the early jacks and can be seen in owner's manuals of the era. Over the years they fell off and/or was discarded. IMO, this is a small but important detail on all /6's and /4's that can easily be missed.

The towing eye on /6's was stored in it's own pouch in the /6 tool kit. The /4 eyes ended up anywhere in the car. Probably why so many were lost.

Hope this helps.
Don

[Pat Garvey]

lenses and the 914 badge seems wrong ...shouldnt it read 1.7?
fun stuff
MikeC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

They didn't add the "1.7" until MY73

MY73 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Good catch on the valance appears to be a six valance but the hole seems a little more to the right then a six ...O the jack is supposed to have a piece of foam rubber stuff under it on the finder not the trunk floor
MikeC

The early fours HAD the snowplow valance (thru MY72). There was a specific one for 4's and 6's. They are extremely rare - took me six years to find a replacement for my 72. It is real,unmodified, and definitely NOT bogus.

[Pat Garvey]

without the carpet (w/ stain that I can't get out)

The seam sealer around the rear shock towers does not look original. It should have been sprayed on, not brushed.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Sir Andy,
I understand that the early production cars had the seam sealer applied by hand with a brush, rather than the typically seen, later style sprayed app.
The accompanying pic shows the rear trunk before restoration.

Paul

Agree with this! Brush was used on early cars. Not certain when the change was made, but my late 72 definitely was sprayed.

[Pat Garvey]

Good on ya Paul! We should do more of these & never, ever nail anything.
Pat

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

Before we go inside to the passenger compartment and engine bay, we will review the cowl area. Remember, this is a fairly early production car so there is a least one thing "missing" that later cars had installed.

First an overview.......

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

detail, outside.......