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> Rick - I need your help, chassis twist
TravisNeff
post Mar 17 2012, 10:20 PM
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A few years ago I got a new welder, I welded everthing in site... Needless to say I never understood shrinkage.

I installed an Engman kit and not only did I rosette weld the kit in, I fully stiched the whole thing. The end result, a stiff chassis - but a bent tub.

My door gaps are totally fuquered. My passenger rear fender was replaced and they must have welded the front, then the back and I have a weird bubble in my fender well. So not everthing is the same.. My passenger side gap has been messed up since I got the car, huge gap at the back of the door.

Here's my measurements, not to be reconciled with the factor charts too much, I am sure I am measuring from different dimensions than that. Anyways my measurements are from the same spots side to side

Targa opening D 62.7, P 63.5 CM
Latch to hinge D 110.5, P 110.5 CM
Diag mid latch plate to top of targa D 109.4, P 108.4
Front bulkead to targa, D 42.6, P 141.5


My guess is:
the passenger cowl fell in, so did the drivers side
The drivers targa fell in, passenger stayed staticd (lots of welding on the e-brake area)

Pics to follow....
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post Mar 19 2012, 09:12 PM
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here's how i was positioning the porta power


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post Mar 19 2012, 09:14 PM
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here's the gaps after the push, looking a lot better in the front. the rear has an even gap, but it's big. the passenger side quarter panel was replaced at some point and it was put in a little screwy - more on that later.


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post Mar 19 2012, 09:15 PM
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tomorrow i will push back the driver's side of the targa bar.
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post Mar 19 2012, 09:54 PM
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post Mar 19 2012, 10:26 PM
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Good idea with the stands. Be sure to check your targa bar to windsheild measurements. It would be easy to get ahead of yourself and end up wide at the top now. Good job so far! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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post Mar 21 2012, 09:31 PM
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a couple days ago i pushed out the drivers front cowl a bit, mostly there..

today I cut the drivers side door opening at the rear of the door. A litle pushing to from the front wheelwell (right behind where the heater tubes are) up to the seat belt recoil mechanism - removing the seat belt mech first of course). anyways - this side is done!!! just need to weld it back up.


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post Mar 21 2012, 09:32 PM
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and a before pic - just for comparison. the drivers side is no longer a door slammer!


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post Mar 22 2012, 08:01 AM
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What size wheels can I fit?
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Looks good Travis. We leave at 1:30 tomorrow so hurry up!
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post Mar 22 2012, 08:42 AM
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I am trying, but I am not holding my breath
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post Mar 22 2012, 09:05 AM
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Looking good Travis!
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post Mar 23 2012, 11:33 AM
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Good to follow that thread.
I have the problem that the PO messed up my passenger door gap when restoring the hell hole. He welded in the inner wheel house without supporting the longs, so my door gap is 1mm at the top.
My plan is to but the car on jack stands. Push the door gap open like you did and then weld in the Engman kit with little heat as possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
Do you think that would work, or do I have to cut the longs? (I don’t like that idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) )

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post Mar 23 2012, 12:09 PM
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Dont cut your longs!!!! I just cut through the stiffening kit only which was already installed
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post Mar 23 2012, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(sofi2t81 @ Mar 23 2012, 12:33 PM) *

Good to follow that thread.
I have the problem that the PO messed up my passenger door gap when restoring the hell hole. He welded in the inner wheel house without supporting the longs, so my door gap is 1mm at the top.
My plan is to but the car on jack stands. Push the door gap open like you did and then weld in the Engman kit with little heat as possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
Do you think that would work, or do I have to cut the longs? (I don’t like that idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) )

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If there was no chassis stiffening done yet you should be able to move the gap. Once there, be sure to brace it before welding. Don't forget to check the targa top opening as you go.
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post Mar 23 2012, 12:43 PM
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post Mar 23 2012, 10:52 PM
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Show us a pic of where you are at


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QUOTE(sofi2t81 @ Mar 23 2012, 12:33 PM) *

Good to follow that thread.
I have the problem that the PO messed up my passenger door gap when restoring the hell hole. He welded in the inner wheel house without supporting the longs, so my door gap is 1mm at the top.
My plan is to but the car on jack stands. Push the door gap open like you did and then weld in the Engman kit with little heat as possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
Do you think that would work, or do I have to cut the longs? (I don’t like that idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) )

Peter


If there was no chassis stiffening done yet you should be able to move the gap. Once there, be sure to brace it before welding. Don't forget to check the targa top opening as you go.


Do I understand that to mean that if there was no chassis stiffening done then there is no cutting to do...just put the power jack in and straighten?
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