 New Wrinkle on Shifting Problem, Goes into 1st great when cold, but... |
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| RickS |
 Mar 18 2012, 09:59 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None  |
The first 3 or 4 shifts into first in my neighborhood, before getting on the back roads are smooth as butter. When the car gets warm, I can't get into first without grinding. The rest of the gears are fine, for a while. After driving for 35 mins, the rest start getting more difficult. This has to be heat related, but what is going on?
Would a 3 liter be any factor in this since there wa never an issue when it was mated to a 2 liter 4? |
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| TravisNeff |
Mar 18 2012, 10:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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I would think that your trans would run a lot hotter with all that power behind it. Have you checked the fluid level, and are you running a straight weight or multi weight gear oil?
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| Richard Casto |
Mar 19 2012, 06:19 AM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
Running late for work. So this is a quick reply with ideas...
1. cold trans oil is covering up issues with 1st gear synchro system (ring, hub, slider). As oil warms up, you are getting clash (grinding) between the dog teeth on hub and slider) 2. Clutch disengagement issue when warm? I would vote for #1 and think #2 is a stretch. Gotta run to work. Will check back later to see if others have better ideas! Richard |
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| Prospectfarms |
Mar 19 2012, 08:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 495 Joined: 7-March 11 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 12,801 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE 2. Clutch disengagement issue when warm? I once had a similar problem: After reaching operating Temp., couldn't downshift into 1'st when rolling toward a stop. Tested clutch engagement position when cold and when hot. Adjusted clutch. No more problem. |
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| underthetire |
Mar 19 2012, 09:28 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
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Check clutch cable. |
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| Dr Evil |
Mar 19 2012, 12:00 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Check clutch cable. If it makes a grind going into reverse then your clutch is dragging.
NEVER down shift into first. The box is not designed for this and it is unnecessary. I have verified this with a few factory Porsche mechanics. 1st is to start, brakes are to stop with the assistance of 2nd which is low enough. |
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| falconfp2001 |
Mar 19 2012, 12:28 PM
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Pancho Pantera Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 5-December 10 From: Downey, CA Member No.: 12,456 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Mar 19 2012, 11:00 AM)  Check clutch cable. If it makes a grind going into reverse then your clutch is dragging. NEVER down shift into first. The box is not designed for this and it is unnecessary. I have verified this with a few factory Porsche mechanics. 1st is to start, brakes are to stop with the assistance of 2nd which is low enough. Dr. Evil, Is down shifting into first really going to do damage to the trans? I got in the habit with my bug only if I know the light will change before I completely stop. |
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| Dr Evil |
Mar 19 2012, 12:49 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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It wears out the slider, band and teeth on 1st. So, current market value = $500 + $175 + $150 = $825 for new parts without labor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ( I of course fix this for much less)
The rest of the transmission will be fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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