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> Type 1 Engine in a 914?, Does anyone have one?
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post Mar 28 2012, 10:27 AM
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Lots of info on how, but why?
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post Mar 28 2012, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 28 2012, 08:27 AM) *

Lots of info on how, but why?



Cause they love what's theirs, becuase what is theirs is all theirs, and that gives them reason to go get more. That is why.
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post Mar 28 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(ape914 @ Mar 28 2012, 11:35 AM) *

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 28 2012, 08:27 AM) *

Lots of info on how, but why?



Cause they love what's theirs, becuase what is theirs is all theirs, and that gives them reason to go get more. That is why.

Whats a theirs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Mar 28 2012, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 28 2012, 12:27 PM) *

Lots of info on how, but why?

Highschool or college student, no money, blown engine, good bug engine sitting in the corner of the garage, no hack to the car itself.....

I can think of a few reasons. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 28 2012, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 28 2012, 08:40 AM) *

QUOTE(ape914 @ Mar 28 2012, 11:35 AM) *

QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 28 2012, 08:27 AM) *

Lots of info on how, but why?



Cause they love what's theirs, becuase what is theirs is all theirs, and that gives them reason to go get more. That is why.

Whats a theirs? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)



it would be what mine is, if it was yours. But since it is theirs, it is not mine, it is theirs, do you mine? (errr... mind) ugh, never mind. now their, (err... there) oh my, my mine hurts now (err...mind hurts, not mine) over load over load, does not compute
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post Mar 28 2012, 11:12 AM
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Well, thats easy for you to say!!!!!
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post Mar 28 2012, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Mar 28 2012, 09:12 AM) *

Well, thats easy for you to say!!!!!



I know, I feel like I am in the middle of a mindfield (err...minefield), it ain't easy for me
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post Mar 28 2012, 02:50 PM
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I salute the 911 mod. An updated 912. Fun.

The 914 is weirder. Mid-engine is one of the best things about the car, but like MH said, for a young person with more time than money, it might be cheap fun.

Thanks very much for those really entertaining photo's!
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post Mar 28 2012, 02:58 PM
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The 911 swap make perfect sense to me. The 914, that is just sad...
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post Mar 28 2012, 03:05 PM
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I'm with ya doc. If you can't afford to keep the mid engine in a 914, sell it and buy a bug. Graduate from college, get a job, then buy a 914 and do it right.
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post Mar 28 2012, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(1973-914-2L @ Mar 28 2012, 12:21 AM) *

there sure is a lot on both side of this ... I put a copy of that pic over st the bird and wow did I get blasted from both sides .....


I would have appreciated a heads up on that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I wouldn't say you got blasted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...s-seen-yet.html


Ok not really blasted .. there are a lot of opinions on this ..

I do see the ingenuity behind it and also truly believe the notion that "its your car" but there are just things that are not natural .. Taking a sports car and placing a very small motor just seems wrong .. To me ..

I also don't understand putting a V8 in a pinto .. a buddy of mine did and I still don't know why .. his answer "I COULD" .. It just doesn't make any sense ..

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post Mar 28 2012, 03:25 PM
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Taking a sports car and placing a very small motor just seems wrong .. To me ..

I agree and would never swap in a T1 engine. But a couple points in response to that statement...

1. The 911 cited above was given to a daughter to drive. I think it's pretty damn cool that he did this for his high schooler so she could drive the coolest car in school but without scaring dad because she's out there in a fast bigger-engined car.

2. The 914 guys aren't thinking of the T1 as a "very small motor." In fact they are thinking a hot T1 is cheap horsepower. Again, not my cup of tea, but I wouldn't call a 150-200+ hp T1 a "very small motor" compared to a TIV. In fact the OP cited a 2332, which I would call a big 4.
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Just adding this pic that landed in the bird thread ..
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post Mar 28 2012, 03:40 PM
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Ooh, LS, I love it. I know it's not air cooled or Porsche, but bang for buck it's more power. And doesn't weigh much different than a six. And has the latest FI for drivability in all conditions. And.... I want an LS1 914!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 28 2012, 03:46 PM
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I would never do the 914 T1 rear engine install like in the pics that's just wrong and too much work. I would keep it mid engine because it could be reversed at a later date.

Would I do it if I was broke and needed a car badly? yes.
But TG I'm not.
Would I give that 911 to my kid? Fuching right I would and it has me thinking....
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post Mar 29 2012, 10:10 AM
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The main reason I started this post is too me it seemed like you could get a 150-200hp type 1 for alot less than a 150-200hp type 4. But with that said it sounds like the costs start to even out once you consider things you have to do for the conversion and the type 4 has that originality factor (not to mention its an improvement.)

But the tempting part is that there are lots of aftermarket parts available for type 1 motors. You can buy a pair of pretty nice performance heads from CB for $500. I have a pair of them and the build quality seems quite nice. I do agree there is a lot of junk too.

Also occasionally you can find used (decent shape) big type 1 motors on cl for ~$1500, I would be tempted if I had a 1.7/1.8 914 to install a big type 1 (mid engine style ONLY). and make a little racer out of it... just thought that maybe there are some cars like this out there.

Oh and also the type 1 motor weighs like 75lbs, so the car would be extremely light (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ok that's an exaggerated guess but I can pick a complete one up and I'm no hulk hogan.
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There's a crew that races a 912 with a hot T1 at PCA GGR AXs.
It's light and fast and low budget. Their 914 almost always takes TTOD, so they can build a fast AX car. The 912 is controversial, and sparked a few "protesters" since it's "heritage" is questionable under PCA rules. If that crew wanted to build a hot-rod T1 into a 914 they could, but in the 2-4 914s they have built/supported for PCA AX racin they all use other powerplants (TIV, 6, or V8).

I agree it would be awesome to see lower than ~$30 per HP from TIVs from builders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Mar 29 2012, 05:32 PM
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Ahh... what about a turbo type 1 motor??? Now we got some hp. cb perfomance sells all the parts, looks like you can do a carb turbo setup and use an o2 sensor for tuning, for a reasonable cost.
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