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> First Timer Builds a Big 4, Phase: Planning and Questions
rwilner
post Apr 15 2012, 02:23 PM
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Now that i've got my microsquirt-based induction system sorted out (see the link in my signature), it's time to plan on building my big 4. I'm currently in the planning phase.

I've never built a type 4 or any other engine before, but i'm confident I can succeed with all the help and resources available. Based on my available time I may have someone build it for me but right now I'm planning on doing it myself because I want the experience.

I've read Tom Wilson's book, reviewed Van Svenson's amazing website a few times, bought and watched Jake's video a few times, read many threads on Jake's forums and many threads here.

The goal for this motor is something that's fun, reliable, has excellent longevity, very streetable, and DOES NOT LEAK... This may be a lofty goal for a first time build but I'm going for it. My car is going to stay 4 lug for now.

Target CR between 8.5:1 and 9:1. Intake will be the stock 2.0L airbox and intake runners, exhaust will be SSIs and a bursch or perhaps Chris' SSI muffler.

I'm going to build this motor on a separate GA case which I purchased from a member here...that way I can leave my existing motor in my car and keep driving and enjoying it during the build.

My current plan:
  • Source some stock cylinders and bore them out to 96mm
  • new 96mm KB pistons
  • Jake's 9500 "super" cam kit -- cam, gear, springs, solid lifters, adjusters
  • A welded 78mm x 96mm crank
  • RS+ style heads
  • New pushrods
  • sealants + seal kit + front main seal + rear main seal + windage tray seals
  • German Bearings
On to my questions:
  • For machine work, I need to get the case checked and align bored, the stock cylinders bored, the rotating assembly balanced, and I think I'll have the machine shop cut and assemble my rods once I determine the lengths. Anything I'm missing?
  • Van's website and some threads here reference a need to clearance the case for a 2270...is that required or only for certain combinations?
  • Obviously there's a billion parts I need that aren't listed here -- bearing dowel pins, pushrod tubes, various fasteners, tin, etc...should I just purchase a core motor to pilfer these parts from or try and source them new / used individually?
Comments welcomed and more to come!
Rich
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rwilner   First Timer Builds a Big 4   Apr 15 2012, 02:23 PM
aircooledtechguy   Just a few things to make life easier and make thi...   Apr 16 2012, 09:45 AM
rwilner   It may or may not help, but I have developed an e...   Apr 16 2012, 10:30 AM
ape914   Go for an Elgins cam. Seen problems with Jakes c...   Apr 16 2012, 10:23 AM
Jake Raby   Exactly. Why should I support the products of so...   Apr 16 2012, 11:00 AM
rwilner   Rwilner, if you'd like to come our way we...   Apr 16 2012, 11:07 AM
Mark Henry   Actually there's a fair bit of internal cleara...   Apr 16 2012, 11:14 AM
monkeyboy   Sounds like you have quite an issue with Jake... ...   Apr 16 2012, 11:47 AM
rwilner   PLEASE STOP! I don't want this to turn in...   Apr 16 2012, 11:59 AM
Jake Raby   Don't ruin this guy's thread. If you don...   Apr 16 2012, 12:10 PM
zig-n-zag   Hot VW's magazine did 4 articles on a Jake 227...   Apr 16 2012, 12:38 PM
Jake Raby   Hot VW's magazine did 4 articles on a Jake 22...   Apr 16 2012, 12:49 PM
vsg914   I gotta agree with jake on the 2056 as a first tim...   Apr 16 2012, 12:47 PM
McMark   Get one of these cutters for clearancing the case....   Apr 16 2012, 01:06 PM
bulitt   Get one of [url=http://www.amazon.com/SAIT-45073-...   Apr 16 2012, 01:53 PM
McMark   Ya got that backwards. The finer tooth burrs are ...   Apr 16 2012, 02:40 PM
Dr Evil   Ya got that backwards. The finer tooth burrs are...   Apr 16 2012, 03:20 PM
Mark Henry   When cutting aluminium try WD-40, one of the ver...   Apr 16 2012, 02:54 PM
vsg914   When cutting aluminium try WD-40, one of the ve...   Apr 16 2012, 02:59 PM
r_towle   When cutting aluminium try WD-40, one of the ve...   Apr 16 2012, 03:14 PM
r_towle   Rich, Do a stroked motor, the costs are about the...   Apr 16 2012, 03:19 PM
Valy   Target CR between 8.5:1 and 9:1. Intake will be ...   Apr 16 2012, 03:25 PM
McMark   I wouldn't say the costs are about the same. ...   Apr 16 2012, 03:57 PM
ConeDodger   I wouldn't say the costs are about the same....   Apr 16 2012, 04:01 PM
rwilner   I'd have to agree with McMark on this point. ...   Apr 16 2012, 04:24 PM
rwilner   I wouldn't say the costs are about the same....   Apr 16 2012, 04:23 PM
Jake Raby   A complete 2056 engine can be built for close to t...   Apr 16 2012, 04:26 PM
Harpo   Van has a nice web site http://www.ephotomotion.c...   Apr 16 2012, 04:30 PM
rwilner   Van has a nice web site http://www.ephotomotion....   Apr 16 2012, 04:49 PM
Jake Raby   I might have some extra core 1.8 or 2.0 cylinders....   Apr 17 2012, 09:25 AM
rwilner   I might have some extra core 1.8 or 2.0 cylinders...   Apr 17 2012, 09:56 AM
SirAndy   Cleaned this thread up a bit ... <_< I...   Apr 17 2012, 11:06 AM
vsg914   Thank you Andy :trophy:   Apr 17 2012, 04:33 PM
rwilner   Thank you Andy :trophy: yeah. seriously   Apr 17 2012, 04:41 PM
pete-stevers   Thank you Andy :trophy: yeah. seriously L...   Apr 17 2012, 06:54 PM
Michelj13   I have some 2L 96 mm KB pistons that are in great ...   Aug 17 2012, 03:47 PM


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