What the heck is this?, White powder in driver footwell |
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What the heck is this?, White powder in driver footwell |
quickshutter |
Apr 15 2012, 08:59 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 22-October 10 From: California Member No.: 12,293 Region Association: Northern California |
Ok, I need some help on this;
I've been noticing a buildup of whit powder below and around the clutch pedal of my 73' 914/4 (converted to EV by previous owner). The powder appears to originate from a damaged area (actually a hole) between the foot well and where the gas tank once was. I'm guessing (and hoping I'm wrong) that this is some kind of asbestos containing material for sound deadening/fire protection, given its proximity to the gas tank. The powder is white and chalky in consistency, which doesn't ease my suspicions at all. I've searched around and haven't found anyone with a similar issue. Does anyone have any idea what this may be? The car is pretty far from stock, so it could be some kind of repair that was done at some point and is now falling apart. Thanks for the help, Mark Attached thumbnail(s) |
CrashDown |
Apr 15 2012, 09:18 PM
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Fake Carbon Fiber MASTA! Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 8-June 09 From: Union City, CA Member No.: 10,453 Region Association: Northern California |
Man that almost looks like bondo dust.....
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 15 2012, 09:29 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Galvanic corrosion is my guess, given your car is an EV, and its common for EV batteries to go where the gas tank used to be.
Where are the batteries kept in your 914? I bet you have a terminal with tons of this crap on it near the main battery bank. Zach |
NORD |
Apr 15 2012, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,505 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Lynden Washington Member No.: 2,756 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Galvanic corrosion is my guess, given your car is an EV, and its common for EV batteries to go where the gas tank used to be. Where are the batteries kept in your 914? I bet you have a terminal with tons of this crap on it near the main battery bank. Zach I agree. It looks like battery terminal crud that my Pickup gets on the terminals Through some in the sandbox and let the screwballs sniff it, then maybe we will know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
quickshutter |
Apr 15 2012, 10:02 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 22-October 10 From: California Member No.: 12,293 Region Association: Northern California |
Galvanic corrosion is my guess, given your car is an EV, and its common for EV batteries to go where the gas tank used to be. Where are the batteries kept in your 914? I bet you have a terminal with tons of this crap on it near the main battery bank. Zach That's a good guess too, but not the winner. The batteries are all fine, and contained in pretty thick boxes. -Mark |
CrashDown |
Apr 15 2012, 10:10 PM
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Fake Carbon Fiber MASTA! Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 8-June 09 From: Union City, CA Member No.: 10,453 Region Association: Northern California |
Okay I'm just gonna ask..... Was your car moonlighting as a Coke mule in columbia??
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Strudelwagon |
Apr 15 2012, 10:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 11-October 08 From: interior, British Columbia Member No.: 9,633 Region Association: Canada |
I'm guessing your pet chipmunk keeps his powdered donuts by the fuse panel! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/brain.gif)
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quickshutter |
Apr 15 2012, 10:29 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 22-October 10 From: California Member No.: 12,293 Region Association: Northern California |
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quickshutter |
Apr 15 2012, 10:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 22-October 10 From: California Member No.: 12,293 Region Association: Northern California |
Okay I'm just gonna ask..... Was your car moonlighting as a Coke mule in columbia?? Ok, tha's got to be it. Maybe that's why I have so much fun driving it around... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
CrashDown |
Apr 15 2012, 10:47 PM
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Fake Carbon Fiber MASTA! Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 8-June 09 From: Union City, CA Member No.: 10,453 Region Association: Northern California |
Man that almost looks like bondo dust..... That one seems very likely to me. I know the previous owner used bondo in a few places, and patching a hole in the foot well seems like a distinct possibly And sadly, the only real way to tell if it is, is to smell it. Bondo retains it's polyester smell looooooong after its been mixed and sanded. Buit if it's comoning from a hole which is near an area that was repaired, and bondo was used, I'd say it's a damn good bet that's what it is. |
SirAndy |
Apr 16 2012, 12:44 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,638 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
What the heck is this?, White powder in driver footwell Did your car come from Columbia? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
euro911 |
Apr 16 2012, 12:53 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,849 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Did the car ever belong to John DeLorean? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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CrashDown |
Apr 16 2012, 02:03 AM
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Fake Carbon Fiber MASTA! Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 8-June 09 From: Union City, CA Member No.: 10,453 Region Association: Northern California |
I see what ya did there... |
wingnut86 |
Apr 16 2012, 07:38 AM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
Not enough hardener in the coca to solidify your 914 made completely out of Jaun Valdez's premium coffee powder
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Definately looks like a quick mix job on the body putty... |
OU8AVW |
Apr 16 2012, 08:28 AM
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Yacht Rigger Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 9,601 Region Association: Southwest Region |
It could be Corrosion, check any aluminum parts in that vicinity (mater cylinder) and makes sure that they are not getting fried. Galvanic corrosion occurs on all metals when there is an errant ground. Aluminum oxide looks like that and is caused by dissimilar metals corroding the aluminum. Steel and brass are more noble than aluminum and can cause the aluminum to decay. This happens in salt water environments and when current is introduced, like your electric car.
Front end components, master cylinders, any aluminum parts are suspect. Even the inboard side of your wheels. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 16 2012, 08:33 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Fire extinguisher residue?
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Eric_Shea |
Apr 16 2012, 08:45 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Through some in the sandbox and let the screwballs sniff it, then maybe we will Pretty sure he's referring to Scatty_underscore_b. QUOTE mater cylinder "Mater" cylinder? There's a joke in there... come'on Mke, you can do it! Ant powder. |
underthetire |
Apr 16 2012, 08:47 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Was the car soda blasted?
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VaccaRabite |
Apr 16 2012, 08:47 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It could be Corrosion, check any aluminum parts in that vicinity (mater cylinder) and makes sure that they are not getting fried. Galvanic corrosion occurs on all metals when there is an errant ground. Aluminum oxide looks like that and is caused by dissimilar metals corroding the aluminum. Steel and brass are more noble than aluminum and can cause the aluminum to decay. This happens in salt water environments and when current is introduced, like your electric car. Front end components, master cylinders, any aluminum parts are suspect. Even the inboard side of your wheels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I was going to post about checking the master cylinder. It could be bondo dust, but I really think this looks like a galvanic reaction getting blown in through that hole. Zach |
LotusJoe |
Apr 16 2012, 12:26 PM
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Europa Twink Driver Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 30-November 09 From: Southern California Member No.: 11,085 Region Association: Southern California |
Is that a hole in the peddle plate? Is the peddle plate aluminum? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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