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small dilema, but irritation nonetheless |
seanery |
Oct 5 2004, 04:59 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Today I went out to take the rear calipers and rubber lines off and replace with SS and new pads in the rotors and speedbleeders. Before my arthritis made me stop I ran into a problem on the passenger side where the rubber line meets the hard line. I can't get them separated. My 11mm is starting to round the edge of the hard line and they won't budge.
I'm really getting frustrated with brake related crap. Anyone have any great ideas? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
SLITS |
Oct 5 2004, 05:02 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Yeh, I'll see if one of the parts cars has the hardline and send it to ya (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
USPS will prolly destroy it anyway - Vise Grips young man, Vise Grips. |
Doug Leggins |
Oct 5 2004, 05:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,358 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Nashville, Indiana Member No.: 261 Region Association: None |
I bought a set of metric line wrenches to use for brake line work. They work much better than a standard open end wrench.
If it is not too late, try a line wrench. And use liquid wrench or something similar. |
seanery |
Oct 5 2004, 05:18 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
yeah, I'm a dumbass.
I'll try vicegrips tomorrow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
Engman |
Oct 5 2004, 06:10 PM
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Zoisite Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,349 Joined: 25-March 03 From: New Albany, IN Member No.: 475 |
BTDT - even with the vicegrips it was tough - THEN I found out it had been crosstreaded - had to replace the hard line as well. If you have rounded the hard line best to replace it now.
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anthony |
Oct 5 2004, 06:12 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
How is a line wrench different from a regular open ended wrench?
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silver2.0 |
Oct 5 2004, 06:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 25-February 04 From: Fairfield, WA (spokane area) Member No.: 1,715 |
a line wrench looks like a boxed end wrench, only it has a cut-out just big enough for your tubing to fit through, so you have more gripping surfaces.
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Lou W |
Oct 5 2004, 06:22 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
[QUOTE]Oct 5 2004, 04:15 PM
a line wrench looks like a boxed end wrench, only it has a cut-out just big enough for your tubing to fit through, so you have more gripping surfaces. It is also thicker, more surface area to grip the nut. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Gint |
Oct 5 2004, 06:27 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Save your hands. Vice grips will get it done, but you might be bloody before it's done.
I had a stubborn hard/soft line junction on "the brown car", I pulled the spring clip, and then cut a slot in the frame bracket from the outside of it to the hole. Bent down one side of the bracket and removed the hard/soft line combo from the bracket. That gave me room to manuever the hose and get them undone with vice grips. If you have too, you can even replace the hard line when your done if you mangle the bejeezus out of the fitting. If you are nice and careful about it, you can bend the bracket back to it's original position and re-use the spring clamp when reinstalling the hose(s). |
seanery |
Oct 7 2004, 04:21 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
With the encouragement of DRALF I made new hard lines today.
I made lines for: Rear Calipers x2 Front Calipers x2 Driver Side Rear Pass Side Rear Midas is going to do the bubble flare on the cut ends tomorrow morning and they should go on after lunch. The price for all this was less than $60 and that included a bender, a cutter & 8 lines - it turns out that the rear caliper hardlines are longer than I thought once all bent up. I did most of the bending with my hands, only used the bender a couple times. We'll see how well they fit. |
bob174 |
Oct 7 2004, 05:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 9-January 03 From: League City, TX Member No.: 122 |
I recently did mine too. Found that my english line wrenches fit all the fittings. Sizes are 11/16 and 7/16. Maybe someone replaced them before.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 7 2004, 06:50 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(bob174 @ Oct 7 2004, 03:16 PM) I recently did mine too. Found that my english line wrenches fit all the fittings. Sizes are 11/16 and 7/16. Maybe someone replaced them before. That would be 17mm and 11mm. That's the size they are. On to the real question. Certainly line wrenches are the answer most of the time, but if they're chingered up you'll need the vise grips. If you use SS lines, you're gonna want to be in there every couple of years changing them, so it pays to take care of the hardware! The Cap'n |
bperry |
Oct 7 2004, 09:34 PM
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Lurker Group: Members Posts: 477 Joined: 16-February 04 From: Dallas, Tx Member No.: 1,661 |
I always called them flarenut wrenches.
Harborfreight has some sets for under $10 Attached image(s) |
Joe Bob |
Oct 7 2004, 10:03 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
BFD.....get a new line from da FLAPS....do a little custom bending and replace the piece of shit.....$9.54 USD when I did it with Frank last month.....geez. What? replace them every 20 years or so????
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