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| Bruce Allert |
 Oct 8 2004, 10:23 AM
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Hellions asleep  Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
Would this be a case of flooding? The cold start injector remaining open or just the opposite?
It will sputter & try to start but I need to hit the gas or pump it while turning the key. Once it actually starts it's fine. Any ideas? I just changed the fuel filter and this happened. <_< 2.0 D-Jet ......b |
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| Joe Bob |
Oct 8 2004, 10:30 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
On FI...there should be no pumping of the pedal needed....souinds like the cold start injector. Have you tried disconnecting it?
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| boxstr |
Oct 8 2004, 10:31 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bruce I saw one on craigslist, he had the same problem. You might check with him. I think he is close to you.LOL.
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| Bruce Allert |
Oct 8 2004, 11:13 AM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(boxstr @ Oct 8 2004, 09:31 AM) Bruce I saw one on craigslist, he had the same problem. You might check with him. I think he is close to you.LOL. CCLINZOOMZOOM Thanks Craig, I saw that one too. Anyone we know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I did that in a time of pissed off-ness (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) . I've overcome it I think (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Thanks Mike. I haven't pulled the plug on the coldstart. I'll do that and pinch off the gas line & see if that helps. It used to start nice w/o touching the gas ....b |
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| bob91403 |
Oct 8 2004, 11:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 618 Joined: 15-September 04 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 2,763 |
The way I've heard it, if it's FI, you turn the ignition on, you put your foot to the floor, you let off half way, then start it. If it doesn't start, you do nothing, and try to start it again. It should adjust for start by itself.
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| phantom914 |
Oct 8 2004, 11:20 AM
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non-914-owner non-club member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,013 Joined: 24-February 04 From: Covina,CA(North ofWest Covina) Member No.: 1,708  |
QUOTE(Bruce Allert @ Oct 8 2004, 08:23 AM) Would this be a case of flooding? The cold start injector remaining open or just the opposite? It will sputter & try to start but I need to hit the gas or pump it while turning the key. Once it actually starts it's fine. Any ideas? I just changed the fuel filter and this happened. <_< 2.0 D-Jet ......b The cold start injector should not open except at close to freezing temperatures. It could be you are running very lean: as far as I understand, pumping the pedal pulses the injectors, sort of like an electronic version of a mechanical accelerator pump. Andrew |
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| rhaas |
Oct 8 2004, 11:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Bay Saint Louis, MS Member No.: 155 |
You might want to replace your points. My car would do that when the points were at the end of their life.
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| Bruce Allert |
Oct 8 2004, 11:43 AM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(rhaas @ Oct 8 2004, 10:37 AM) You might want to replace your points. My car would do that when the points were at the end of their life. I have the Pertronics Electronic ignition. It could very well be something similar. QUOTE bob91403 Posted on Oct 8 2004, 10:17 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The way I've heard it, if it's FI, you turn the ignition on, you put your foot to the floor, you let off half way, then start it. If it doesn't start, you do nothing, and try to start it again. It should adjust for start by itself. I've never heard that but won't hurt to try. Like I said above, never had to touch the gas before changing the filter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ......b |
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| anthony |
Oct 8 2004, 11:58 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
My car does this only when it's very hot out and the car has been run up to max operating temperature. The factory owner's manual indicates that this is normal and that the hot start procedure is to put the accelerator to the floor and then start the car.
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| Bruce Allert |
Oct 8 2004, 12:47 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
This is only during first start of the day. Then, even after hard running, like AX, it starts with a turn of the key & no gas peddal.
I'll figure this dang'd thang out if it causes me to drink 6 Fat Tires whilst doing it... Hmmmmmm, must be wishful thinking, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) .......b |
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| anthony |
Oct 8 2004, 01:05 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
Ok, I misunderstood. The cold start shouldn't be that difficult.
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