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> Distributorless EFI Conversion on a Raby 2270., John Faure goes digital.
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post Jun 6 2012, 09:03 AM
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This should be fun.

Here is John Faure's Raby 2270 in for a conversion to stand-alone FI and distributorless ignition.

We'll be using an Electromotive TEC-S ECU and crank trigger kit from Clewett Engineering.

The current Webers and Mallory ignition will be for sale in the classifieds shortly.



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post Jun 6 2012, 10:36 AM
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I don't know why, but that car looks REALLY cool to me. Must be the color and clear lenses. Should be a blast to play with EFI and crank-fire ignition.
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post Jun 6 2012, 05:27 PM
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How much for the mallory? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 6 2012, 05:37 PM
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I want to go EFI so bad... $$$
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post Jun 7 2012, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 6 2012, 07:27 PM) *

How much for the mallory? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Tentatively sold. You can be #3 in line if the others fall through. It went for $450.

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post Jun 7 2012, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE(yeahmag @ Jun 6 2012, 07:37 PM) *

I want to go EFI so bad... $$$




If each $=$1k, then somewhere between $$$$$ and $$$$$$.


On Nelson's 3.2, the ITBs alone are $2600! For this one, ITBs from CB are about $600. The rest of the system from Clewett Engineering runs $2600. All this, plus installation and tuning.

John's not the kind of guy who goes for the minimum to get it going, so we'll be doing a bunch of other work "while I'm in there".

I half expect to just take the car apart and paint it while it's here..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif)
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post Jun 7 2012, 09:40 AM
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The old stuff is out:



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post Jun 7 2012, 09:54 AM
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TEC S is a great system. I did lots of testing for Electromotive with that system on my own engine in the 912E. Update to the latest firmware, the older versions have a glitch that won't trigger the fuel pump relay :-)

The "idle blend & mix" feature will greatly help tune that engine at low speed as it has a camshaft that is primarily used for carburetors. Getting used to the software interface takes a little time, but its not too bad and the tech support is great, just ask for Uwe as he is a VW/ Porsche guy himself.

John's engine was one of our kits, not a turnkey.. Looks like he did a good job assembling it!

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post Jun 7 2012, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jun 7 2012, 11:54 AM) *

TEC S is a great system. I did lots of testing for Electromotive with that system on my own engine in the 912E. Update to the latest firmware, the older versions have a glitch that won't trigger the fuel pump relay :-)

The "idle blend & mix" feature will greatly help tune that engine at low speed as it has a camshaft that is primarily used for carburetors. Getting used to the software interface takes a little time, but its not too bad and the tech support is great, just ask for Uwe as he is a VW/ Porsche guy himself.

John's engine was one of our kits, not a turnkey.. Looks like he did a good job assembling it!



I've done a TEC-GT system on a 3.2, so I'm familiar with the Win TEC software.

Feel free to send me a data file for this engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif)
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post Jun 7 2012, 10:40 AM
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Looks like he did a good job assembling it!

"I want to keep an eye on the tune and health of my engine so I am thinking of running some additional gauges. I am getting a Raby
2270 built by McMark and want to keep it in good shape." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Where is the toot my own horn smilie? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Jun 7 2012, 01:30 PM
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I picked TEC S because Joe is familiar with it and has had good results with it. I also noticed Jake using it and liking the system, which sealed it for me.

Mark did a great job building my engine and walking me through getting it installed and tuned, plus many other little issues that had me stumped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

I had fun playing with the carbs using a wide band AFR, EGT and CHT logging but it was time to move on to something that will let me run gas with ethanol without as many issues and will allow better control of the mix and spark across the range. I think this engine can be even more of a monster with EFI.

After seeing Joe's 914s in person a few times it was a no brainer to get him to help me out.

This should give me more time to focus on my IMSA 914, which I hope to at least show at the tropical ramble this fall in some pre-running state.

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post Jun 7 2012, 02:24 PM
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Dude, that's some good karma your Karmann's gonna have there. Raby kit, McMark assembled, and Series9 tuned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post Jun 7 2012, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 7 2012, 12:40 PM) *

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Looks like he did a good job assembling it!

"I want to keep an eye on the tune and health of my engine so I am thinking of running some additional gauges. I am getting a Raby
2270 built by McMark and want to keep it in good shape." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)

Where is the toot my own horn smilie? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)




Go back and change the title of this thread from Raby 2270 to McMark 2270. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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post Jun 7 2012, 07:59 PM
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Yep, sounds good to me. Then he can provide the support that you asked me for.

I honestly forgot that Mark built the kit.. I purposely have tried to forget anything and everything about the kit program.
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post Jun 8 2012, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jun 7 2012, 09:59 PM) *

Yep, sounds good to me. Then he can provide the support that you asked me for.

I honestly forgot that Mark built the kit.. I purposely have tried to forget anything and everything about the kit program.


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post Jun 15 2012, 07:37 AM
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A box from Clewett has arrived:

$$$



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post Jun 15 2012, 08:13 AM
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What on earth is going on with what I assume is the trigger wheel? Why so cumbersome?
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post Jun 15 2012, 08:19 AM
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It is a pretty unique solution, but like everything that comes from Clewett, it's perfectly executed.



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post Jun 15 2012, 12:12 PM
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