Distributorless EFI Conversion on a Raby 2270., John Faure goes digital. |
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Distributorless EFI Conversion on a Raby 2270., John Faure goes digital. |
Series9 |
Jun 6 2012, 09:03 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
This should be fun.
Here is John Faure's Raby 2270 in for a conversion to stand-alone FI and distributorless ignition. We'll be using an Electromotive TEC-S ECU and crank trigger kit from Clewett Engineering. The current Webers and Mallory ignition will be for sale in the classifieds shortly. Attached image(s) |
JmuRiz |
Jun 6 2012, 10:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,427 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I don't know why, but that car looks REALLY cool to me. Must be the color and clear lenses. Should be a blast to play with EFI and crank-fire ignition.
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Mark Henry |
Jun 6 2012, 05:27 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
How much for the mallory? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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yeahmag |
Jun 6 2012, 05:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California |
I want to go EFI so bad... $$$
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Series9 |
Jun 7 2012, 06:46 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
Tentatively sold. You can be #3 in line if the others fall through. It went for $450. |
Series9 |
Jun 7 2012, 06:51 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
I want to go EFI so bad... $$$ If each $=$1k, then somewhere between $$$$$ and $$$$$$. On Nelson's 3.2, the ITBs alone are $2600! For this one, ITBs from CB are about $600. The rest of the system from Clewett Engineering runs $2600. All this, plus installation and tuning. John's not the kind of guy who goes for the minimum to get it going, so we'll be doing a bunch of other work "while I'm in there". I half expect to just take the car apart and paint it while it's here..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) |
Series9 |
Jun 7 2012, 09:40 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
The old stuff is out:
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Jake Raby |
Jun 7 2012, 09:54 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
TEC S is a great system. I did lots of testing for Electromotive with that system on my own engine in the 912E. Update to the latest firmware, the older versions have a glitch that won't trigger the fuel pump relay :-)
The "idle blend & mix" feature will greatly help tune that engine at low speed as it has a camshaft that is primarily used for carburetors. Getting used to the software interface takes a little time, but its not too bad and the tech support is great, just ask for Uwe as he is a VW/ Porsche guy himself. John's engine was one of our kits, not a turnkey.. Looks like he did a good job assembling it! This post has been edited by Jake Raby: Jun 7 2012, 09:56 AM |
Series9 |
Jun 7 2012, 10:14 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
TEC S is a great system. I did lots of testing for Electromotive with that system on my own engine in the 912E. Update to the latest firmware, the older versions have a glitch that won't trigger the fuel pump relay :-) The "idle blend & mix" feature will greatly help tune that engine at low speed as it has a camshaft that is primarily used for carburetors. Getting used to the software interface takes a little time, but its not too bad and the tech support is great, just ask for Uwe as he is a VW/ Porsche guy himself. John's engine was one of our kits, not a turnkey.. Looks like he did a good job assembling it! I've done a TEC-GT system on a 3.2, so I'm familiar with the Win TEC software. Feel free to send me a data file for this engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) |
McMark |
Jun 7 2012, 10:40 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Looks like he did a good job assembling it! "I want to keep an eye on the tune and health of my engine so I am thinking of running some additional gauges. I am getting a Raby 2270 built by McMark and want to keep it in good shape." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Where is the toot my own horn smilie? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
FourBlades |
Jun 7 2012, 01:30 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,054 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
I picked TEC S because Joe is familiar with it and has had good results with it. I also noticed Jake using it and liking the system, which sealed it for me.
Mark did a great job building my engine and walking me through getting it installed and tuned, plus many other little issues that had me stumped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I had fun playing with the carbs using a wide band AFR, EGT and CHT logging but it was time to move on to something that will let me run gas with ethanol without as many issues and will allow better control of the mix and spark across the range. I think this engine can be even more of a monster with EFI. After seeing Joe's 914s in person a few times it was a no brainer to get him to help me out. This should give me more time to focus on my IMSA 914, which I hope to at least show at the tropical ramble this fall in some pre-running state. John |
Madswede |
Jun 7 2012, 02:24 PM
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Flat Out Driver Group: Members Posts: 853 Joined: 13-September 06 From: Rio Rancho NM Member No.: 6,831 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Dude, that's some good karma your Karmann's gonna have there. Raby kit, McMark assembled, and Series9 tuned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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Series9 |
Jun 7 2012, 03:19 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE Looks like he did a good job assembling it! "I want to keep an eye on the tune and health of my engine so I am thinking of running some additional gauges. I am getting a Raby 2270 built by McMark and want to keep it in good shape." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Where is the toot my own horn smilie? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Go back and change the title of this thread from Raby 2270 to McMark 2270. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
Jake Raby |
Jun 7 2012, 07:59 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Yep, sounds good to me. Then he can provide the support that you asked me for.
I honestly forgot that Mark built the kit.. I purposely have tried to forget anything and everything about the kit program. |
rwilner |
Jun 8 2012, 09:47 AM
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No Ghosts in the Machine Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 30-March 10 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 11,530 Region Association: North East States |
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mrbubblehead |
Jun 9 2012, 07:14 AM
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Twodollardoug Group: Members Posts: 1,155 Joined: 17-December 10 From: calimesa ca. Member No.: 12,492 Region Association: Southern California |
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Series9 |
Jun 15 2012, 07:37 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
A box from Clewett has arrived:
$$$ Attached image(s) |
edwin |
Jun 15 2012, 08:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 20-May 09 From: Australia Member No.: 10,384 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
What on earth is going on with what I assume is the trigger wheel? Why so cumbersome?
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Series9 |
Jun 15 2012, 08:19 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
It is a pretty unique solution, but like everything that comes from Clewett, it's perfectly executed.
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FourBlades |
Jun 15 2012, 12:12 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,054 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
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