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Clutch problem!, Can't fully engage clutch. |
Pdr1787 |
Jun 7 2012, 12:59 AM
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Sneaky Pete Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 8-September 09 From: Lakewood, California Member No.: 10,779 Region Association: Southern California |
Bought new clutch cable, pulley, t.o. Bearing, preassure plate the pushing in the shift fork and I still have lost half pedal play. The cable is adjusted all the way. What else could it be? I check the pedal assembly and it seems fine. Any advice???
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rhodyguy |
Jun 7 2012, 01:09 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
did you replace the ball stud clip and the 2 throw out bearing clips?
k |
Dr Evil |
Jun 7 2012, 08:24 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Just because you have run out of threads on the adjustment at the end of the cable does not mean you are fully adjusted. It is often that the cable end needs a piece of short pipe under the nut to add to the adjustment.
The big question is, did it work before the parts change? That tells us a lot. |
walterolin |
Jun 7 2012, 09:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 685 Joined: 30-November 11 From: Louisville, Ky Member No.: 13,838 Region Association: South East States |
Has the clutch cable tube separated from the firewall. When mine separated I wasn't bright enough to figure it out, so I started adding
washers to the threaded end as Dr. E suggested. The better question, though, is "did it work before", and if so what is differnt now. |
spunone |
Jun 7 2012, 10:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 945 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Anaheim CA Member No.: 1,901 Region Association: Southern California |
what size pipe do ya use?
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Dr Evil |
Jun 7 2012, 11:06 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well, technically it would be tubing. I use what ever fits around the threads. 7/16" IIRC.
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Pdr1787 |
Jun 7 2012, 01:55 PM
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Sneaky Pete Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 8-September 09 From: Lakewood, California Member No.: 10,779 Region Association: Southern California |
What happened first was my clutch cable snapped. I replaced the cable and everything was fine for about a week. I was pullin into a gas station, tried to put it in first when I felt a pop. There was still some pedal play but not enough to engage it in gear without grinding the gears. Since then I have replaced all that I have mentioned expect for the retainer clip and the t.o. Bearing clips. I'm running out of ideas now....
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Pdr1787 |
Jun 7 2012, 01:59 PM
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Sneaky Pete Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 8-September 09 From: Lakewood, California Member No.: 10,779 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm going to check the clutch cable tube. I also don't know what you mean about adding a piece of tubing.
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brant |
Jun 7 2012, 02:13 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
the comment about a piece of tubing is:
on the end of the cable where you tighten the adjusting nuts often at the end of the threaded portion people do not have enough adjustment. by placing a piece of tubing or a stack of washers between the cable "fork" and the adjustment nuts you tighten up the cable further... however: if you had your clutch adjusted correctly and working and then something popped.... that is probably not indicative of needing a stack of washers added. that is more like something broke likely the clutch tube athough it could of been other things.... brant |
LotusJoe |
Jun 7 2012, 03:39 PM
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Europa Twink Driver Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 30-November 09 From: Southern California Member No.: 11,085 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm sure you have already thought of this but the nuts on the threaded end of the clutch cable are 11mm or M7 thread. A M8 will thread on and seem tight but will eventually come loose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Strudelwagon |
Jun 7 2012, 03:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 11-October 08 From: interior, British Columbia Member No.: 9,633 Region Association: Canada |
Just because you have run out of threads on the adjustment at the end of the cable does not mean you are fully adjusted. It is often that the cable end needs a piece of short pipe under the nut to add to the adjustment. The big question is, did it work before the parts change? That tells us a lot. Dr. Evil, You Rock! You answered the question before I even asked it. My friggin reverse was grinding a little and I figure a few more threads might help. "Just because you have run out of threads on the adjustment at the end of the cable does not mean you are fully adjusted" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Lets hope that's the problem....Thanks SW |
Dr Evil |
Jun 7 2012, 03:53 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes, and that info of something breaking was not available when I made the spacer recommendation. It does sound like the tube popped.
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Jeffs9146 |
Jun 7 2012, 04:19 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
You can also adjust the bracket on the front of the clutch cable! If the bracket wasn't tightened up enough! It is a bit more work than just adding a spacer but it is the "correct" way to add threads to the back!
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Strudelwagon |
Jun 7 2012, 05:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 11-October 08 From: interior, British Columbia Member No.: 9,633 Region Association: Canada |
You can also adjust the bracket on the front of the clutch cable! If the bracket wasn't tightened up enough! It is a bit more work than just adding a spacer but it is the "correct" way to add threads to the back! Jeff, do you mean in the tunnel at the pedal cluster? Steve |
Jeffs9146 |
Jun 7 2012, 05:51 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
Yes, make sure it is all the way on at the cluster! I have seen people not screw it all the way in.
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rhodyguy |
Jun 8 2012, 08:25 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
the bracket, or clevis, adj procedure is detailed on pgs 70/71 section #5 of your haynes.
k |
euro911 |
Jun 8 2012, 11:25 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,849 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
The 'pop' does sound like the clutch tube may have busted loose in the tunnel.
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Jeffs9146 |
Jun 8 2012, 12:51 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
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QUOTE What happened first was my clutch cable snapped. I replaced the cable and everything was fine for about a week. I was pullin into a gas station, tried to put it in first when I felt a pop. Sounds like that to me!!! |
Dr Evil |
Jun 8 2012, 05:20 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Question, did the cable come out in two pieces? Pop and one piece = tube broke free. Pop and two pieces = cable broke (and maybe the cable broke free).
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brant |
Jun 8 2012, 06:35 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
any updates?
there is always the chance that the new cable wasn't seated on the firewall entrance.... and the pop was it seating.... just being hopeful get under there and look things over. pull the center arm rest and open up the tunnel get us an update on what you find. brant |
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