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Removing door hinge pins, Rediculously hard |
ThePaintedMan |
Jul 14 2012, 12:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Hey all,
Does anyone have any suggestions other than PB Blaster, heat and a BFH for removing door hinge pins? I wondered why I could never get my door to line up right until I pulled it off yesterday to replace the pins. Got the bottom out with a punch and hammer fairly easily. However I tried the same process with the top, only to find out that the pin has snapped off in the door at some point long ago. I got the "head" half of the pin out, but the other end is rusted/seized in. I have been soaking it for almost 24 hours in PB Blaster, and already had tried heat yesterday. I'm going to give it one more shot tonight, and will post a picture of the broken pin (NEVER seen that happen before and not sure how it even could!) In the meantime, does anyone have any other bright ideas? Yes, I know about the VW tool made for this, but I don't have access to one and it wouldn't work anyway since the head is gone! FYI, scratching the paint is not an issue, thats something I'm going to tackle at a later point anyway. |
Mike Bellis |
Jul 14 2012, 02:26 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Heat and an air hammer....
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mepstein |
Jul 14 2012, 02:27 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,279 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
A press.
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bozo914 |
Jul 14 2012, 02:44 PM
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Slacker Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 27-October 10 From: Richmond VA Member No.: 12,325 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Heat and penetrating oil, repeat 2 or 3 times. You might try the acetone/ATF mix, but beware it will burn, as will most of them.
*Penetrating oil .......... Average load* None ........................... 516 pounds WD-40 ..................... ... 238 pounds PB Blaster .................... 214 pounds Liquid Wrench ............... 127 pounds Kano Kroil .................... 106 pounds ATF-Acetone mix...............53 pounds The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. |
wndsnd |
Jul 14 2012, 03:05 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Why take the pins out, just unbolt....
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ThePaintedMan |
Jul 14 2012, 04:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
A press is a great idea, but I don't think I can fit one in that tight space. Its hard to explain, but if you look at your car, you'll see the top of the pin is somewhat occluded by the upper edge of the door.
I could try an air hammer if I can get my hands on one with a pointy attachment. The ATF/Acetone mix sounds awesome! I consider myself to be pretty "up" on my chemistry, but I'm not sure what the significance is in the mix that allows it to penetrate so well. I'll look into it. The whole door is already off. Can't simply remove the hinge because the pin is stuck in the portion that is steel-riveted to the door. I have no idea how someone would replace that portion of the hinge anyhow, nor do I know how the factory attached them in the first place. |
windforfun |
Jul 14 2012, 06:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,796 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
My car's pins have a 0.25" gap between the pinhead & the hinge. FYI.
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sixnotfour |
Jul 14 2012, 07:05 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,432 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
factory style tool=slide hammer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-930-99...1e8&vxp=mtr |
ThePaintedMan |
Jul 14 2012, 07:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Ugh... nevermind. I wasn't making much sense I guess. Like I said, I had gotten the head part of the pin out, thinking it had broken in half. Instead it broke in TWO difference places, making three parts. I have no earthly idea how that can happen to hardened steel, but I'll post pics in a little bit detailing how I got it out. I hope this never happens to any of you.
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windforfun |
Jul 14 2012, 07:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,796 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Maybe it's not a stock pin. Are you sure it's steel?
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rhodyguy |
Jul 14 2012, 10:44 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
george, just get a different door. REALLY. someone within 60 miles MUST have one. offer to meet half way, buy the gas and breakfast.
k |
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