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> Are 914's really this "twitchy" in the rain?, Video of a rally 914-6
billh1963
post Jul 30 2012, 11:07 AM
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Having never really driven a 914 in the wet, I have no experience to say if a 914 is this loose or not. Anyone have any real world experience in this matter?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyxB00hgwV4
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:19 AM
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yes they swap ends very fast .but i think he has a lock n diff in the car...which makes it step out even easier IMO.If i had half a brian i would post some AX runs i did in the rain with Kumho 710`s on the car ...GoPro vids ....Ill try again
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:24 AM
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I didn't think it looked loose. In one scene the car understeered through a chicane.

With 250hp on tap its pretty easy to get the rear to come around anytime you want.
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:28 AM
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In the video the driver talks about the car having poor handling in the wet. I know that mid engine cars will transition very quickly; however, I thought that the handling in the rain would be comparable to a normal rear wheel driver car or even better due to the weight distribution.
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:35 AM
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I drive my car in the rain, certainly more stable than an old beetle.
However, for driving on ice the rear engine weight bias certainly helps.
Go do some donuts in a field in a 914, they spin like a top, very controllable.
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:57 AM
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I know of at least one member who went off the road in a /6 conversion in wet weather.
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:24 PM
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914s handle great in the rain, with the right setup and a good driver!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuNJ5nEqxHU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77oRaG_PoSg
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:26 PM
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I know of one member that flat spun in the middle of the road after passing thru water in a 4 cyl ... all I he did was step on the gas.
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Jul 30 2012, 02:24 PM) *

914s handle great in the rain, with the right setup and a good driver!




WOW! Nice driving. Great stuff
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:33 PM
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They did mention very quickly in the beginning that it was a rally car. Perhaps the difference in chassis set up is the cause?
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:49 PM
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yep, very prone to hydro planning! Always slow down in the rain.
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Jul 30 2012, 02:26 PM) *

I know of one member that flat spun in the middle of the road after passing water in a 4 cyl ... all I he did was step on the gas.


Fixed it for you SLITS. Don't worry, it will be our secret.
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:40 PM
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I enjoy racing in the rain, you have to concentrate 10x as much as in the dry.
When the back goes out it goes quick so you must respond.
I try to stay up a gear with low RPMs to minimize the car's power/torque.

As you can see in my video other cars handle even worst.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca1Qudywa8o
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:42 PM
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The videos are great!
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Jul 30 2012, 02:24 PM) *

914s handle great in the rain, with the right setup and a good driver!

Chris it looks like you have the same fogging problem as I do, what are you using on the windshield?
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post Jul 30 2012, 06:25 PM
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I'm willing to bet that car is still on full or a relatively full stiff set up. If he disconnected the rear sway and loosened the front the car would handle much better.
Fun to watch though.
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post Jul 30 2012, 06:38 PM
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I don't drive mine in the rain but it is set up with a precise corner-balance and it wants to turn. If you don't pay strict attention you are one lane over with some pissed off cars around you!
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post Jul 30 2012, 07:27 PM
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The real keys are proper setup (already mentioned) and proper driving skills (also already mentioned). I learned to drive 914's in the snow and used mine as a daily driver for many years. We no longer drive the track car in the rain (no lights and no wipers), but we did so from 25 years ago until about 10 years ago (when the wipers got removed). It really teaches smoothness. The same handling characteristics are there but at a much reduced speed.

Try it and you will learn to be a better driver.
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post Jul 30 2012, 07:37 PM
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I have logged many miles in the rain and major snowstorms. I felt if you knew your cars limits it was very easy to control. But just like any car you push it beyond your tires limits you can easily have a tiger on your hands
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post Jul 30 2012, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(gms @ Jul 30 2012, 06:46 PM) *

Chris it looks like you have the same fogging problem as I do, what are you using on the windshield?

dishsoap on the inside, IIRC
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