First Look: 914-6 Alloy Rear Calipers, ...about 30 days out. |
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First Look: 914-6 Alloy Rear Calipers, ...about 30 days out. |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 14 2012, 08:16 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The time has come. We are beginning to take pre-orders on the 914-6 rear calipers.
As you know, us 914 owners have long been looking for a solution to a properly biased brake system. The fronts have been the easy part, bolt on a pair of Brembo's ...or a 3.5" 911 front suspension and you would have your choice of larger calipers with 48mm pistons up front. But, what about the rears? You need a 38mm piston to give you the correct bias. For 914 owners that meant a long and winding road of searching for the proper solution which usually boiled down to two things; uber-rare (and uber-expensive) original 914-6 calipers or 911 rear calipers and a confusing handbrake assembly or, worse yet, 911 rear calipers and no handbrake solution. Well, you're looking at the true bolt on solution. Aluminum castings of the famous 914-6 rear calipers. Final weigh-in has yet to be established but, we think we'll be under 3lbs each with the aluminum pistons. These simply bolt on and use stock handbrake cables and parts. Larger pistons and larger pads make this the prefect rear caliper solution for Brembo bolt-ons and S-Caliper or A-Caliper upgrades. What you are looking at is a raw alloy assembled prototype prior to anodizing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1344953789.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1344953790.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1344953790.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net-1110-1344953791.4.jpg) |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 21 2012, 07:25 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
We can rebuild anything.
Steel isn't difficult to machine. You're still talking about good money for bad. QUOTE If you do not offer the machining ....... then ...... if I were to send you my pair of steel 1968 ATE 'M' calipers already machined at the mounting flange, would you be able to rebuild them? Maybe I can search for someone with a larger mill ... I take it you are talking about machining a solid rotor (68) m-caliper to fit on a late model 914 strut. After reviewing all of these options many times, I fail to see the value in that. Here's why: 1. Exact same pad size as a 914 caliper. 2. Same solid rotor will not shed heat any faster. 3. Need to machine 914 rotor/hubs to 5-lug every time you need a new ones (if that's what you're doing). 4. Larger 48mm piston will throw off the bias unless you go with a rather expensive rear solution, but then... ....again, why not put that money toward 911 struts that offer a real benifit (larger bearings, lightweight hub assembly with vented rotors that weigh the same as a solid 914 rotor/hub assembly)? They simply bolt to your a-arms. Or - just stick with the stock late model 914 front caliper. It has thicker pads anyway. So... Rear Calipers. Should go into final machine consulting today. I hope to have final pricing this week as well. |
gothspeed |
Aug 21 2012, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
We can rebuild anything. Steel isn't difficult to machine. You're still talking about good money for bad. QUOTE If you do not offer the machining ....... then ...... if I were to send you my pair of steel 1968 ATE 'M' calipers already machined at the mounting flange, would you be able to rebuild them? Maybe I can search for someone with a larger mill ... I take it you are talking about machining a solid rotor (68) m-caliper to fit on a late model 914 strut. After reviewing all of these options many times, I fail to see the value in that. Here's why: 1. Exact same pad size as a 914 caliper. 2. Same solid rotor will not shed heat any faster. 3. Need to machine 914 rotor/hubs to 5-lug every time you need a new ones (if that's what you're doing). 4. Larger 48mm piston will throw off the bias unless you go with a rather expensive rear solution, but then... ....again, why not put that money toward 911 struts that offer a real benifit (larger bearings, lightweight hub assembly with vented rotors that weigh the same as a solid 914 rotor/hub assembly)? They simply bolt to your a-arms. Or - just stick with the stock late model 914 front caliper. It has thicker pads anyway. So... Rear Calipers. Should go into final machine consulting today. I hope to have final pricing this week as well. Thank you for your time Eric. Yes, I have the solid rotor 'M' caliper and was gonna use them on stock late rotors (1973). I don't want to be a pain, I understand what you are saying and yes, what you describe is certainly 100% better but I have already bought new strut inserts, new brake pads and pin set, 19mm master and machined/drilled my stock rotors (5 lug). I only need to machine fit the 'M' calipers and this part will be done (for now). Down the road, if I ever get to drive this car and wear these rotors out, I will look into it again. This car is not my main project and I unfortunately cannot just keep adding "while I am in there" parts, effort and time. I spent more years and money than I planned on and would hope to drive it before I die. This whole car project seems to be good money after bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) .... I have already spent plenty on the very nice 2056cc and I still need to: weld the flares buy flared rockers / valences do all body work add body deadner paint the whole car install new weather stripping then the entire interior still needs to be done buy tires and space the 7 & 8 x 16 fuchs to fill the flares intall rear sway bar (front is done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) maybe rebuild gear box (probably big project in itself) install new fuel pump put the fuel tank back in redo engine wiring / fuel lines for carbs setup shift linkage, throttle / clutch cables etc....... So I just need some help fitting the 'M' calipers, so I can put the rotors on and bleed the brakes. Otherwise I will just throw the 'M' calipers in the ocean and put the stockers back on ...... which now, almost sounds like the thing to do ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ....................... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) |
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