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> Steering, Sounds like cracking your knuckles
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post May 13 2003, 05:30 PM
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Have this sound in my steering, a clunking sound almost like when someone is cracking there knuckles, I have new bushing throughout the system, new turbo tie rod kit, only thing that wasn't messed with the the steering rack. Was wondering if the rack is bad or the u joints in the rack are porked. I does it when turning right and left. I also am getting a bit of high speed wooble in the steering, just had the car aligned, tires were rotated. Just trying to get to the bottom of these things... by high speed wooble I'm talking about 75 to 80 mph when this occurs.
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post May 13 2003, 05:30 PM
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Lower ball joints.

Did you do these also ?

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post May 13 2003, 05:34 PM
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Lower ball joints,, hmmmm not sure I will check on this and let you know for sure,, thanks very much for such a quick reply.
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post May 13 2003, 05:37 PM
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Its the only thing I could think of quickly that makes noise right before it fails completely.

It "creaks" as you steer the car left and right.


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post May 13 2003, 05:40 PM
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Nope no creaking at all, just the clunking sound when you start to turn the wheel, almost makes me think of a U joint or something like that, otherwise the car handles just fine. Trying to figure out where the hell that noise is coming from.
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post May 13 2003, 05:43 PM
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Loose shock collars ??

You would feel a loose U joint in the column. The wheel would turn.. then the tires would turn.

Go out and grab one of the wheels (front to back of wheel) and try to turn the car.. Listen for the clunk.

Similar to checking wheel bearings.. but not grabbing top to bottom..


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post May 13 2003, 05:47 PM
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Ok just went out a tried what you said, no clunking at all. Steering column u joints maybe?
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post May 13 2003, 05:50 PM
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Or a loose rack. Stick your head under the dash and grab the wheel.. move the wheel while looking at the U joints. You could have a worn out rack...

Starting to sound like U joints.. I just have never seen any fail.


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post May 13 2003, 06:00 PM
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Ok just tried that the U joint looked and felt good when turning the wheel, still had the clunking sound, all I have to do is turn the steering a couple of inches in either direction an you can hear the clunking sound,, sounds like the rack,, better start looking for a good used one.
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post May 13 2003, 06:02 PM
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The only other way I can think of would involve jacking the car up and grabbing the front wheels while watching the steering wheel. You should be able to feel the play in the rack.

I have seen loose racks (bolts loose..not worn out loose) make this noise also.


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post May 13 2003, 06:03 PM
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Your not really running back and forth to the computer are you ??

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post May 13 2003, 06:05 PM
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Yes,, the car is not far, only takes a minute to do what you ask,, best way, all the info is fresh in ones head (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) BTW the car is scheduled to go in the shop on the 21st, I'm gonna have Jim Adams shifter installed, also picked up a XR700, no sure about that one yet as the car is running the best its ever ran since I've owned it, if its not broke don't fix it. When its in the shop we will get to the bottom of this clunking sound.
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post May 13 2003, 06:07 PM
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The web has brought communication to a new level.

We raced a car with a steering clunk in at Laguna... brought the car in and the steering rack had one bolt half way out holding the rack in. Luckily the other bolt was still sitting in the suspension tray floating around.. I couldnt beleive the drive could get the car around the track.

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post May 13 2003, 06:09 PM
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You can also try loosening the steering u-joints - sometimes (especially when rack specers are installed) they get bound up by being pushed together. Just loosen one of the clamp bolts and turn the wheel to see if the noise changes.
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post May 13 2003, 06:13 PM
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Good one James.


Oh James.. do you know of any decent 912's or 914's in the DFW area for sale ?? In the 3500-4500 range ??


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post May 13 2003, 06:17 PM
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James, gonna have to wait till tomorrow on that one, just got home from playing 18 holes and I'm gonna sit my a** down a relax, will try that first thing in the morning a let you how things turn out, I will follow up and no leave you hanging. Thanks for all the great advice you guys, This board is the best thing since seedless...

BTW: Love the club sticker,, its on the rear window right behing the drivers sit... looks gr8, thank you very much, appreciated.
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post May 13 2003, 09:10 PM
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Brad - I don't know off the top of my head but I can ask around.
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post May 14 2003, 04:10 PM
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Does the steering wheel have up-and-down slop? That could also cause noise...

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post May 14 2003, 04:27 PM
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I had a loose shock collar once. It made a noise and the steering bound up slightly at one point as well. It's easy enough to check. I looked all around the steering system before discovering this simple problem.
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post May 14 2003, 04:37 PM
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Ok, regarding ball joints. How the hell do you remove the pin that connects the ball joint to the strut? Do you just pound the snot out of it until it comes out, or do you have to finesse it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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