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Valve Adjustment Tool, Still Available? |
JawjaPorsche |
Aug 23 2012, 01:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
I have been reading the forums on valve adjustment, I have two questions. A Porsche 914 shop manual I have has a picture of a valve adjustment tool (see below). I was wondering if this tool is still available through a vendor? It looks like it would work great in tight places plus you would not need three hands!
Has anyone had experience with this tool? Also I climbed under my teener and looked at the valve covers. Not much room under there. I guess you can adjust the valve without removing the heat exchangers? The picture has some tin removed. Thank you in advance for your help. Attached image(s) |
rmital |
Aug 23 2012, 01:57 PM
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Northeast optimist Group: Members Posts: 1,947 Joined: 12-December 05 From: Park Ridge, NJ Member No.: 5,268 |
..it's a pretty cool tool, I have that one or one similar to it. But, there is no room to use it unless the motor is on a engine stand.
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r_towle |
Aug 23 2012, 02:07 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Nothing needs to be removed except the valve cover.
A rag looped through the bail given a good solid yank will pop the bail off. The valve cover slides out towards the rear of the car positioned so it holds oil... Use a dime for the screw driver adjustment...it fits nicely. It just takes some practice as you tighten things down to know where you need to use the wrench and what will happen to the adjuster when you snug up the nut... Rich |
dlee6204 |
Aug 23 2012, 02:31 PM
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Howdy Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
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scotty b |
Aug 23 2012, 02:47 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Can you adjust the value up to aboot 100,000? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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jsayre914 |
Aug 23 2012, 02:58 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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JawjaPorsche |
Aug 23 2012, 03:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
When you type CAT when you meant to type DOG, spell-check will not find it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Bartlett 914 |
Aug 23 2012, 03:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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URY914 |
Aug 23 2012, 05:03 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,578 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
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aircooledtechguy |
Aug 23 2012, 05:20 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The picture has some tin removed. Thank you in advance for your help. I don't think that engine is in a car. It's in a 411. It appears to be a 914 HE (albeit incomplete) in the photo (that's no 411/412 HE), but that motor is NOT installed on anything 'cept an engine stand. I own the old Snap-on valve adjuster tool and there's no way in hell you can use it on a 914 with the motor installed. There isn't even enough room on pre-68 bugs to get it on the #2 exhaust valve with the engine installed. |
bandjoey |
Aug 23 2012, 05:34 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
It's hard to adjust without removing the heat exchangers - for me. Pop them off and it's a 15 minute job. With them on an hour - for me.
Here's my tool (don't get excited now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) ). HF 95cent parts cleaning brush with the proper shims. It has the perfect angle to get the shim in to make the adjustment. Happy adjusting Attached thumbnail(s) |
jcb29 |
Aug 23 2012, 11:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Clovis, CA Member No.: 2,646 Region Association: Central California |
Kool tools Bill. Looks loke they could also be used to clean out the gap between the second and third molars.
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rjames |
Aug 24 2012, 10:54 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,932 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It's hard to adjust without removing the heat exchangers - for me. Pop them off and it's a 15 minute job. With them on an hour - for me. Here's my tool (don't get excited now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) ). HF 95cent parts cleaning brush with the proper shims. It has the perfect angle to get the shim in to make the adjustment. Happy adjusting Takes me longer to remove heat exchangers then it does to adjust the valves. I'm also paranoid of stripping an exhaust stud. |
MartyYeoman |
Aug 24 2012, 01:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,518 Joined: 19-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 839 Region Association: Northern California |
It's hard to adjust without removing the heat exchangers - for me. Pop them off and it's a 15 minute job. With them on an hour - for me. Here's my tool (don't get excited now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) ). HF 95cent parts cleaning brush with the proper shims. It has the perfect angle to get the shim in to make the adjustment. Happy adjusting Takes me longer to remove heat exchangers then it does to adjust the valves. I'm also paranoid of stripping an exhaust stud. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
bandjoey |
Aug 24 2012, 08:56 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
It's the angle of the dangle that makes this a great tool.
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Dave_Darling |
Aug 24 2012, 09:59 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I use a deep-offset wrench for the jam nut, and a stubby flat-head screwdriver for the adjuster. Access is usually from in front of the suspension console, or forward along the top of the heat exchanger to the rear of the rocker box.
--DD |
iamchappy |
Aug 24 2012, 10:36 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I came across one of these recently on the web never tried it but looks like it may work well.
http://www.theautopartsshop.com/12909.htm |
Dave_Darling |
Aug 25 2012, 04:09 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Not nearly enough room for it with most of our valves.
--DD |
brant |
Aug 26 2012, 07:29 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
There is no need to remove the heat exchanger
don't use the special measuring tool if it doesn't fit a normal/cheap set of feeler guages will work a box open wrench and stubby screw driver will work I have brace bars on both sides, an auxillary rear oil cooler, plus all of the heating hardware (J tubes), and can still adjust my valvew without pulling the heat exchangers. its done by feel but much quicker than disassembling things |
JawjaPorsche |
Aug 26 2012, 08:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
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