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> Flat towing w/o an engine?, can you do this?
VaccaRabite
post Aug 27 2012, 12:39 PM
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Can you flat tow a 914 w/o the engine/transmission installed? How would you keep the axles from flopping around? You could pull them, but I think thats certain death for the bearings.

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post Aug 27 2012, 12:42 PM
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I used to tow old subies with no engine (or rear diff) and would just use a thick zip tie to hold up the axle, never had one wear thru, and didn't damage the axle.... Ymmv
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post Aug 27 2012, 12:42 PM
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Hey Zack as long as you leave the stubs I'm the hub your good. Just unbolt the cv from the stub and get the axles off.
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post Aug 27 2012, 12:42 PM
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I'd remove the axles. I don't think it will kill the bearings. I've got a trailer thats been running for years that way with no problem. Less weight yes but probably not that different than a car with no drivetrain. I probably wouldn't go across country like that. A couple hundred miles I wouldn't sweat it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Aug 27 2012, 12:54 PM
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can the cv's on the swing arm side be removed without pulling stub axle?
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(jimkelly @ Aug 27 2012, 11:54 AM) *

can the cv's on the swing arm side be removed without pulling stub axle?

yep! I do it all the time. So much nicer having them out of the way when dropping the motor & tranny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 27 2012, 02:03 PM
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I don't know where this tale of "flat towing without an engine/trans will ruin your bearings" got started but it's wrong.
My guess is some yahoo flat towed a 914 with the axles on and destroyed more than just his bearings.... then told everyone you can't do it.
Or maybe the stubs and hubs were not bolted together... or maybe his trailing arm broke off because it was rusted out...


You do have to leave the hub bolted to the stub.
The trailing arm mounts would have to be in good condition.

I would never tow a 914 with just the axles on, ever, no exceptions.
Removing the CV's, although may be a PITA on a 914, it will not ruin your wheel bearings. You can then tow it no problem.
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post Aug 27 2012, 02:48 PM
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Whoops, posted bad advice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(type47 @ Aug 27 2012, 04:48 PM) *

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"Not suitable for towing!" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:22 PM
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There've been a few guys that had problems flat towing a car with the stub axles removed, which you can't do.

If you try and tow the car with the half shafts supported by zip ties, you'll get about a mile and a half before you have problems.
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:22 PM
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"Not suitable for towing!" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Agreed. Its not sturdy enough and the center assembly doesn't have bearings needed for high speed rotation.

Just remove the halfshafts and leave the stubs installed.
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:43 PM
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Okay. Half shafts!
Plas76targa: get those tow bar mounts on your 911 or I am going to tow my 914 to Scott's instead. I'm call'n you out, Mr P.

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post Aug 27 2012, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Aug 27 2012, 05:43 PM) *

Okay. Half shafts!
Plas76targa: get those tow bar mounts on your 911 or I am going to tow my 914 to Scott's instead. I'm call'n you out, Mr P.

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If Matt needs a tow to Scotty's, I can help out.
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post Aug 27 2012, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Aug 27 2012, 02:43 PM) *

Okay. Half shafts!
Plas76targa: get those tow bar mounts on your 911 or I am going to tow my 914 to Scott's instead. I'm call'n you out, Mr P.

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Damn, you read posts fast! The shellange is on! if you tow your 914 then i'll drag the 911 behind the Enclave. I should have the towing package installed by then.
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post Aug 27 2012, 07:09 PM
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Matt, the 911 has priority. If I bring the 914 I'll be tempted to work on it instead of having a party. I'd rather bring down the 911.
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post Aug 27 2012, 07:12 PM
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If Zach can get his 914 to Scotty's party I am bringing him a motor that is basically plug and play that all the drunk people can install into his car.

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post Aug 27 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Aug 27 2012, 01:43 PM) *

Okay. Half shafts!
Plas76targa: get those tow bar mounts on your 911 or I am going to tow my 914 to Scott's instead.
Zach



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) is this aboot ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Aug 27 2012, 07:43 PM
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Dons fault. He put this hair brained idea in my head.
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post Aug 27 2012, 07:56 PM
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Then Donald can start paying my shop insurance when they find out customers have been working on their own cars here and drop my policy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Aug 27 2012, 08:08 PM
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Ahh. So maybe not the best idea then. Well, I'll just have to leave my car home and enjoy the party then.

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