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has any one done a ecotec swap |
Pass45 |
Sep 6 2012, 02:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
I have a ecotec in my baja and I haven't used it in a few years and I'm wondering if it would fit into a 914 :sa (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) wzall: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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matthepcat |
Sep 6 2012, 02:55 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
I that a good motor? My commuter beater has a 2.2L ecotec .....and it's sorta a dog....even in a manual.
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underthetire |
Sep 6 2012, 03:00 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Thats the swap i wanna do. Great motors and light. Lots of upgrade parts for them.
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Pass45 |
Sep 6 2012, 03:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
It moves my baja almost to good it should be around 150 at the tires its a stock 2.2 with a stand alone computer from turn key
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JmuRiz |
Sep 6 2012, 03:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,429 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I hear the new 2.5 ecotech is much better than the old 2.4, I'm sure no one has put one in a 914 yet though.
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underthetire |
Sep 6 2012, 03:33 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
I almost pulled the trigger on a 2.0 supercharged out of a Cobalt SS a while back, just wasn't sure of what else I was going to need.
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bfrymire |
Sep 6 2012, 05:48 PM
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Salsaholic Group: Members Posts: 590 Joined: 1-August 04 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 2,431 Region Association: Northern California |
Where do you go for more info on the ecotech? Speed parts?
I know very little about the motor? Like, where is the sump? Rear? Front? -- brett |
wingnut86 |
Sep 6 2012, 06:30 PM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
These guys do a 2.3 Ford in Vanagons.
Very slick & tons of options. ...and I think it fits in a 914(?)... Ford 4 in a Van - maybe a 914? |
bulitt |
Sep 6 2012, 06:42 PM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
John Lingenfelter was into Ecotecs before his untimely death. I think he was pushing 1000hp.
Summit racing sells performance parts for the engine to boost hp to 200. Also, check these guys out- 898HP with 54 lbs of boost! Ecotec |
Pass45 |
Sep 6 2012, 06:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
GM Performance Parts has a book that tells you what needs done for what. Horsepower you want up to 1400 hp with parts list and they have a rear wheel drive oil pan
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Pass45 |
Sep 6 2012, 07:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
So how much can you move a 901 back I've been measuring my 914 and its gonna be tight I have a parts car so I thank I might try to shove it in it before I cut it up
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Mike Bellis |
Sep 6 2012, 07:18 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
The VW and 914 bolt patterns are not the same. They are close and look the same but the VW adapter will not fit the 901 transmission without grinding and machining. You may be able to modify it to fit but You should order a new adapter and flywheel from Kennedy Engineering. The flywheel you have may be OK but you will need to call Kennedy to be sure.
I say go for it, especially if you have a stand alone ECU. Should be an easy swap with minimal engineering required. |
Mike Bellis |
Sep 6 2012, 07:20 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
So how much can you move a 901 back I've been measuring my 914 and its gonna be tight I have a parts car so I thank I might try to shove it in it before I cut it up V8 cars move the tranny back 1.5 inches without problems. Any more than that and you should swap to 930 CV's like the off road Sand Rails use. |
Pass45 |
Sep 6 2012, 07:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
My baja has a bus trans in it I thought they would be the same
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underthetire |
Sep 6 2012, 09:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
These guys do a 2.3 Ford in Vanagons. Very slick & tons of options. ...and I think it fits in a 914(?)... Ford 4 in a Van - maybe a 914? I have the newer 2.5 version in my escape. Even in that it runs pretty strong. I believe it's a Mazda motor, but not positive. |
Mike Bellis |
Sep 6 2012, 10:17 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
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Pass45 |
Sep 7 2012, 04:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
Its a 3rib its early seventies
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Pass45 |
Sep 7 2012, 03:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
I called Kep today and my adapter work with a 901 but I need a new flywheel and clutch and that's almost the price of a ls1 adapter
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Mike Bellis |
Sep 7 2012, 08:00 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Most of the KEP flywheels accept a standard 914 clutch. Their 9" flywheel is special and requires a different one.
Their clutch packages are not cheap. I bought a SPEC Stage 3 clutch for mine directly from SPEC. But you can go to your FLAPS and price a standard clutch. Expect to pay up to $150 just for the throwout bearing. SPEC included one with my package $650. |
Pass45 |
Sep 8 2012, 01:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 31-March 12 From: Wildwood il Member No.: 14,323 Region Association: None |
if i move the trans back it might just fit to close to tell with out actually tryin looks like its time to bring the parts car home and start cutting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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