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> has any one done a ecotec swap
Mike Bellis
post Sep 8 2012, 02:27 PM
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I'm not sure how big the Ecotech is but if I can stuff a V8 in the engine bay, I think the Eco would fit. Got any pictures of the existing setup?
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:42 PM
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The ecotec is taller than a v8


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post Sep 8 2012, 02:50 PM
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The Valve cover Touches the firewall and trunk at the same time


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post Sep 8 2012, 05:30 PM
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Yeah, but the intake is on the side instead of on top like a V8. Measure it from the pan to the top of the valve cover, I'll go measure my empty 914 engine bay with the V6 cradle as a baseline. I know a VW 1.8 16v will fit standing up at 90 degrees. Can't immagine it's that much taller.

Edit, nevermind, I finally caught up with the thread. Just move it back and down an inch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 8 2012, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(rohar @ Sep 8 2012, 03:30 PM) *

Yeah, but the intake is on the side instead of on top like a V8. Measure it from the pan to the top of the valve cover, I'll go measure my empty 914 engine bay with the V6 cradle as a baseline. I know a VW 1.8 16v will fit standing up at 90 degrees. Can't immagine it's that much taller.

Edit, nevermind, I finally caught up with the thread. Just move it back and down an inch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

25 inches from the bottom of the oil pan to type of valve cover 17 from the crank to the top if I can get it in low enuf to get the targa in I'm doing it
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post Sep 8 2012, 06:01 PM
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The Chevy V8 requires cutting in the trunk to clear the distributor. I'm sure you could do some clearancing for the valve cover.
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post Sep 8 2012, 06:01 PM
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the radiator out of my bug looks like a perfect fit


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post Sep 8 2012, 06:23 PM
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Ok, I went and measured. I'm seeing 18" from the crank, 25" from the pan and 19" deep on the Audi V8. That doesn't leave more than half an inch between the engine and lid, but quite a bit of room between the front of the engine and the firewall. I measured the bay, and that's about as tall as it gets. Fair warning, I'm working with an Audi tranny, your tranny mounts may end up almost anywhere. If you've got a welder, this shouldn't be a problem.
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post Sep 8 2012, 06:24 PM
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Oh, and I mocked it up with that monster, the targa still fits if you cover the holes I had to cut just right...
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post Sep 8 2012, 06:43 PM
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This is my other hobby I have a mig and access to a tubing bender plasma cutter and tig the jeep has a ls in it and that was my plan for the 914 until I started looking at my poor neglected baja


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post Sep 8 2012, 07:11 PM
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I just realised, with that little I4, you're gonna have a LOT of space to either side. Any ideas what you're gonna put there?
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post Sep 8 2012, 07:16 PM
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If you can get a measurement from the centerline of the crank to the top of the valve cover we can determine how it will fit.

Here's an example from my CAD model for the 3.2 tall V6 SHO (Taurus). It just fits, height wise, under the engine lid. I'm sure the 4cyl can do the same.

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post Sep 8 2012, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(rohar @ Sep 8 2012, 05:11 PM) *

I just realised, with that little I4, you're gonna have a LOT of space to either side. Any ideas what you're gonna put there?

They love turbos with low boost there around 250
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post Sep 8 2012, 07:31 PM
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Do they make an oil pan with a built in slant? The 16v I had fit so much better when I tilted it the stock 15 degrees it was in the golf. A little slant makes it fit so much easier and drops the center of gravity.
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post Sep 8 2012, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(rohar @ Sep 8 2012, 06:31 PM) *

Do they make an oil pan with a built in slant? The 16v I had fit so much better when I tilted it the stock 15 degrees it was in the golf. A little slant makes it fit so much easier and drops the center of gravity.

would love to see pics of 16v in there, working to fit mine.
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post Sep 8 2012, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(paroxysm @ Sep 8 2012, 08:36 PM) *

QUOTE(rohar @ Sep 8 2012, 06:31 PM) *

Do they make an oil pan with a built in slant? The 16v I had fit so much better when I tilted it the stock 15 degrees it was in the golf. A little slant makes it fit so much easier and drops the center of gravity.

would love to see pics of 16v in there, working to fit mine.


I'll see if I can't find pics, I know I have some somewhere but it was years ago. Before camera phones. They're actual pictures. I'm showing my age (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There's a few tricks to making it fit properly. First, slant the thing. I know, it's tempting to go with the 0 degree flywheel/bellhousing adapter from Kenedy, just don't. It won't fit. Second, there's a dizzy cap from a Saab that'll fit the dizzy but the ignition wire posts are at a 90 degree angle. This is key to clearing the sheet metal at the back of the engine bay. I wish I could remember the part number off the top of my head. Third, there's a coolant flange on that same end of the head that comes out straight stock. You need to fab a new one that comes out at a 90 to clear the sheet metal. After that, it's a walk in the park.
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post Sep 11 2012, 04:47 PM
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The clutch and flywheel fit the 901 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)


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post Sep 11 2012, 06:07 PM
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It looks like I can leave the transmission in the stock location it needs to go back about 2 inches in this picture and I need to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) more or the trunk
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post Sep 11 2012, 06:16 PM
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It looks like I can leave the transmission in the stock location it needs to go back about 2 inches in this picture and I need to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) more or the trunk



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post Sep 11 2012, 06:39 PM
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Keep going! Looks good so far.
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