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> Fuel Injection is Better., ...carbs, not so much.
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post Sep 18 2012, 05:21 AM
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Shoot your own video and let's keep it fun, please.


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post Sep 18 2012, 05:56 AM
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post Sep 18 2012, 06:24 AM
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FI is better. There is no argument there. If carbs were better, cars would still use them.

But carbs are WAY cheaper. And some people will find them easier to tune and maintain.

Its a trade off.

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post Sep 18 2012, 07:13 AM
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I will take the pain and grief of learning how to fix the FI as I like 25 - 30 mpg instead of 12 - 15 with carbs.
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post Sep 18 2012, 07:21 AM
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post Sep 18 2012, 07:56 AM
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The main issue with programmable EFI is most people do not know how to tune. Even if you "learn" and practice, you really need a chassis dyno to get it just right. Most shops around here charge $800 per day and most new users will require several days on the dyno. Stock FI is much better for the novice but still can be a challenge.

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post Sep 18 2012, 08:10 AM
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Stock FI is fine if you have a supply of parts. Also, those parts can get to be very expensive as the supplies dwindle. Things like:

Trigger points
Green top injectors
Throttle Position Switches.
Manifold pressure sensors.
ECU/brains correct for the engine
Proper 3-port fuel pumps.

So yeah, as long as those things are in cheap and plentiful supply, then the stock FI is a better option as it works pretty well.

.ps nice video. love the tail lights. lose the wheels. that is all.
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post Sep 18 2012, 08:17 AM
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What blend of coffee are you on? Your way way to motivated for this time in the morning!
Hands down, FI is the way to go, for our cars were engineered that way. Your only doing a huge disservice to the 914 by slapping on carbs.
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post Sep 18 2012, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(tim_nd @ Sep 18 2012, 10:17 AM) *

What blend of coffee are you on? Your way way to motivated for this time in the morning!





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post Sep 18 2012, 08:48 AM
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post Sep 18 2012, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(tim_nd @ Sep 18 2012, 06:48 AM) *

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post Sep 18 2012, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(Ferg @ Sep 18 2012, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(tim_nd @ Sep 18 2012, 06:48 AM) *

I love morning sex too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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QUOTE(tim_nd @ Sep 18 2012, 07:48 AM) *

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Don't let Tim fool you, he is married with two kids. The only morning sex he gets is with himself.
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post Sep 18 2012, 10:28 AM
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post Sep 18 2012, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 18 2012, 09:28 AM) *

I like carbs. They are old technology and so am I. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


You like them because they suck. At your age ...........................

nevermind!
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post Sep 18 2012, 10:45 AM
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Stock FI is fine if you have a supply of parts. Also, those parts can get to be very expensive as the supplies dwindle. Things like:

Trigger points
Green top injectors
Throttle Position Switches.
Manifold pressure sensors.
ECU/brains correct for the engine
Proper 3-port fuel pumps.

So yeah, as long as those things are in cheap and plentiful supply, then the stock FI is a better option as it works pretty well.

.ps nice video. love the tail lights. lose the wheels. that is all.


.........WHAT?........cheap versus efficientcy?...are you juggling this?
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post Sep 18 2012, 11:02 AM
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whats all the stuff in your trunk? my car starts just like yours without it. and it has been sitting for 10 years (untill yesterday).
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post Sep 18 2012, 11:15 AM
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.........WHAT?........cheap versus efficientcy?...are you juggling this?
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)(carry on)


Dunno what efficiency you're talking about, but I am getting 26 mpg with my 40 idfs on a mild-cammed 1.8. Thats mostly city, and I have a habit of hitting the redline (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Sep 18 2012, 11:18 AM
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whats all the stuff in your trunk? my car starts just like yours without it. and it has been sitting for 10 years (untill yesterday).



This is a 3.2 /6, 10.5:1, big cams, PMO ITBs, twin plug.

From left to right on top: MegaSquirt ECU, EDIS modules, Wideband O2 sensor module

Below: Braille battery, fuse block, ECU and fuel pump relays.

On the firewall, you can see the two coil packs. One runs the upper plugs and one runs the lower.



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post Sep 18 2012, 11:20 AM
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.........WHAT?........cheap versus efficientcy?...are you juggling this?
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)(carry on)


Dunno what efficiency you're talking about, but I am getting 26 mpg with my 40 idfs on a mild-cammed 1.8. Thats mostly city, and I have a habit of hitting the redline (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)


.....Wait till they get DIRTY!(carbs sweat)
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