Battled with a Boxter last night Options

[Jake Raby]

Did you get those pistons from European motorworks???

My point was the design of the engine didn't make that piston come apart... It wasn't the Type IV engine's fault at all..
Chances are that a stock piston WOULD NOT HAVE!

[Series9]

BTW, 914RS not all Type IVs have to have pushrods....

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[Series9]

Chances are that a stock piston WOULD NOT HAVE!

Which of your almost-200hp engines are using stock pistons?

[Jake Raby]

Ummn, must have never heard of the chap in the UK named Russ Fellows...

330BHP with a 2300TIV running a Turbo and 964 heads...

Its been together for 5 seasons I know of with no failures.

Do your homework before you raise your flag...

I know several others that have done the same and a fellow in the Netherlands now that is installing "Apfelbeck heads" onto his TIV with 100mm Posrche cylinders. These heads are overhead cam..........

I was stating that it was a problem with those particular pistons that made them WEAKER than a stocker..

I do have one 190 BHP engine that runs a basically stock manufactured piston from a Type I. Made by Mahle in 94mm flavor..

[Series9]

So now we take your cheap, umm I mean inexpensive, TIV engine and turn it into an exotic with 964 heads that would cost two times what I paid for my 3.6? I thought you were building powerful -4s as cost conscious alternatives to -6s.

Have you ever built an OHC TIV?

Give me a fucking break. I paid $6200 for my 3.6 that makes 300 RELIABLE hp. Let's see you do that with a TIV.

[1973914]

http://www.centralvwaudi.com/Russ_Fellows.htm

Highly evolved drag motor.

Jake, did you get any restitution from J& E or European Motorworks? I got them from Aircooled.net. These were 103's.... Flame on? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[d914]

AGAIN BACK ON TOPIC..... no the Ruff was good in the twisties, the driver was not. Hell of a car. Porsche schould have made it.

[1973914]

d914, was not aware Ruf made a version. Will have to check it out. know the specs?

[Jake Raby]

JE will do nothing about it, neither will European...

Yours were 103s? Never had it happen with a 103, but with the weight of the piston it is possible. One of my biggest gripe with a 103 is the weigh of that huge piston and the force it exerts on all downstream components including the crank.

Forget restitution- These are racing parts that expelled on the track. Grin and bear it- and learn from it.

BTW, my 3.0, even with all custom parts hasn't cost me 6,200 yet, but I don't pay myself labor. Russ Fellows did all his machine work and got most of his parts from the junkyard if I rememver correctly. Highly innovative machinists don't buy parts- we buy materials and junk...

as Edison said "To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk"

On that one I'm outta here for a while guys....... 1973914 if you need some help email me. You don't have to buy something from me to get my help- I want your four on the track as much as you do!
SEE YA!

[1973914]

Found it. go to:

http://www.ruf-automobile.de/english/index1.htm

Then look under "Refinement" it is the RUF 3400 S. 996 motor, with the following suspension/wheel changes:

As good as the Boxster 3400 S is in a straight line, the Boxster’s forte has always been in the twisty bits, where it stands head and shoulders above its marketplace rivals. Lowered by 20 mm in front and 10 mm at the rear on RUF’s upgraded springs and shock absorbers, the 3400 S also gains a huge amount of grip from 235/35ZR19 and 275/30ZR19 Pirelli P Zero Asimmetrico rubber on 19x8.5 and 19x10-inch RUF five-spoke alloys. To lower unsprung weight, the wheels are made from forged magnesium

OH there is also a 3600s that has 345HP. Probably huge dollars though (like any Ruf conversion/model is not).

[d914]

Ruff Boxster topic:


I believe it had a late model 911 motor, about 340 hp or so, custom leather interior, ran with the hard top and kicked up more marbles from all that damn tire it had. Front of my car would be nothing but black marks...

It also had some custom suspension, unknown changes. The guy had some serious $$$ in it. It should have been a serious weapon.

[Series9]

JE will do nothing about it, neither will European...

Forget restitution- These are racing parts that expelled on the track. Grin and bear it- and learn from it.

My point EXACTLY.

And you also quote Edison and call yourself a 'highly innovative machinist'.

Nice ego.

[d914]

1973914, by the way pretty car. what engine, he asks tenatively????

[1973914]

With vigor he responds:


NONE. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Wont get back into it, but yet another type IV big bore for scrap parts... Anyone need a new crank, cam, reaceware fasteners, and a shuffle pinned cracked case? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[DNHunt]

This whole thing is getting crazy. I just bought a kit motor from Jake. I don't know whether it will run with a 6. I don't really care to tell you the truth. I wanted my car to be a 4 cause that's what it started out as. It has been with the stock engine and will be with Jake's engine more car than I can ever master. Talk of 200, 250, 300 hp in a 914 just plain scares me.

There are no quaranties that any motor will stay together. I understand that 6's have a great reputation for dependability and high performance type IV's have a bad rap. I considered this in my decision.

There are a bunch of Raby IV's out there and Jake has testimonials on his website from happy customers. By and large, these are from people who bought the engine assembled. I got mine in pieces with the copies of the piston and cylinder order specs and other documentation. It was certainly not off the shelf components. I also got to know the parts up close and personal and I can tell you that the parts I recieved were top quality and put together with great care. Because of this I'm inclined to believe Jake when he says there are type IV engines and there are my type IV engines.

Maybe Jake can smoke the 6's. I'd like to see him try cause it would be a good show. But, it's not that important to me. I'm more interested in the fact that he spent a bunch of time finding out what I wanted and how I drove and what I did with my car. I'm content cause I think I got the best engine for MY car.

I know I'm prejudice but I couldn't keep quiet

Dave

[d914]

I've done some great research on going subaru, starting new argument,!!!!

[GTeener]

I've done some great research on going subaru, starting new argument,!!!!

Have you been talking to Jon Watts?

That's the abomination, I mean conversion he's working on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Rocky]

Im with Dave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Why basterdize a good thing. A well built 4 has a great PTW ratio for the teener.

Long live simplicity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Tim

And, nice job Chris (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[d914]

flat four or flat 6, computer comtrolled FI 165-250 hp stock...and light.

[J P Stein]

Maybe Jake can smoke the 6's. I'd like to see him try cause it would be a good show.

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Mostly, it would be fun and that's what this is all about....IMO.
Somebody wins, but nobody looses.......humm, sounds like a blurb for the Special Olyimpics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)