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short ram, how to ? |
GreatPumpkin |
Oct 1 2012, 02:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Centerville OHIO Member No.: 8,272 Region Association: None |
has anyone removed the stock air box on a 2.0 engine and replaced it with a short ram air intake? if so what do you do with the vacuum hoses so that they hold a vacuum. is there a tube that you can buy to hook them up to the intake system? will this even be beneficial?
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wingnut86 |
Oct 1 2012, 03:17 PM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
I just sold mine to another member.
I originally purchased it from Automotion I believe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The Cold Air version with a large K&N filter on the end. The pipe made a basic 180° turn back to the intake or in this case the Throttle Body itself. there were 3 vacuum fittings installed along the length after the filter - allowed the build up of incoming air prior to TB and created the vacuum. I am in no way an expert on cyclonic air movement across an oriface, but I had a girlfriend once who... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Good Luck, Dave |
Jeffs9146 |
Oct 1 2012, 03:43 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE I am in no way an expert on cyclonic air movement across an oriface, but I had a girlfriend once who... I thought you were going for the "I am in no way an expert on cyclonic air movement across an oriface, but I did sleep at a holiday inn express last night"! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
GreatPumpkin |
Oct 1 2012, 04:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Centerville OHIO Member No.: 8,272 Region Association: None |
any idea what size the TB fitting should be ? and would it be beneficial to do this instead of having the stock air box? or does anyone know where i could get one of these pipes?
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GreatPumpkin |
Oct 1 2012, 06:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Centerville OHIO Member No.: 8,272 Region Association: None |
so i cant find a pipe with 3 vacuum hose fittings . if i use one with two fittings could i use an adaptor to connect two hoses to one fitting?
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wingnut86 |
Oct 1 2012, 07:27 PM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
I bought mine here almost 2 years ago. They look a whole lot different now, and the prices have doubled. But, very nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
http://m.9xauto.com/site/1064372/home?url=...14-FI-%2FDetail |
Maltese Falcon |
Oct 1 2012, 08:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,641 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
You can get a high flow , serviceable cone filter with 4 vent barbs from msdsinc.
Or pick it up through Auto Atlanta. It is complete with a mandrel bent , nickel plated ram tube. See it at the msdsinc.com site, in the projects section- 914 2.0 track car. Less than $150.00 Marty |
John |
Oct 1 2012, 09:18 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I don't believe that you will see any benefit other than looks.
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Dave_Darling |
Oct 1 2012, 10:14 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,982 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Everything "upstream" of the throttle body is at ambient pressure. They're not at any particular level of vacuum. So you can join together all of the hoses that used to connect to the air cleaner with no penalty, just make sure the join and its source are big enough to flow the air needed.
AFAIK, the only real gain would be from moving the air intake to a cooler spot than the middle of the engine bay. Demick Boyden did a study on intake temps a while ago. He built an intake snorkel for his 2.0 from downspout material (Home Depot race engineering!) but then decided you could get most of the benefit of that simply by turning the intake around so it drew from the side of the engine bay. --DD |
GreatPumpkin |
Oct 1 2012, 10:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Centerville OHIO Member No.: 8,272 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the feedback everyone!
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McMark |
Oct 2 2012, 08:22 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Dave's right. Here's Demicks Research.
This is NOT the same as the hokey PVC piping with a K&N cone filter. |
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