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6 VIN swap
Original 6 VIN swap
Swap the VIN, at least it will be a real factory original tub [ 19 ] ** [20.88%]
Restore the original chassis with new panels [ 61 ] ** [67.03%]
Don't care either way [ 11 ] ** [12.09%]
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scotty b
post Oct 4 2012, 11:44 AM
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rust free you say ?
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FIRST PLEASE READ THIS POST IN IT'SENTIRETY BEFORE RESPONDING !!


This thread is NOT meant to be a discussion of the legality of a VIN swap. We all know it is illegal to simply swap the numbers from one car to another.


HOWEVER this comes up for discussion often as is the case in this thread
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=195530

So the HYPOTHETICAL scenario FOR DISCUSSON ONLY is this. I have 2 cars. Both legally obtained, both with clean titles and history. One is a rusted out pile of a 6, the other is a perfect example of a 1.7 4.


Now to " restore " the 6 would take many thousands of dollars, most of the metal on the car would be replaced with reproduction pieces, interior recoverd etc. So in the end very little of this car would be REAL factory built Porsche, and would in fact be a resconstruction

on the other hand I could professionaly change the vin from the six to the pristine 4 tub, have an all original factory correct chassis, then only have to swap over the few other 6 only pieces, and duplicate things like the undercoating etc tht would have to be done on wither tub. This ends up with a proper factory built 6, with original metal


The question. How do the purists among us see this. Would you rather see the original chassis completely cut apart and have brand new aftermarket panels put in, or would you rather see the vin swapped and have a TRUELY original untouched ( save for the VIN area ) Porsche body
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scotty b   VIN swap discussion   Oct 4 2012, 11:44 AM
Woody   :wavebye:   Oct 4 2012, 11:50 AM
Elliot Cannon   I'm assuming you own both the cars? If so, yo...   Oct 4 2012, 11:55 AM
scotty b   I'm assuming you own both the cars? If so, y...   Oct 4 2012, 11:57 AM
Elliot Cannon   I'm assuming you own both the cars? If so, ...   Oct 4 2012, 12:02 PM
scotty b   [quote name='scotty b' post='1748583' date='Oct 4...   Oct 4 2012, 12:03 PM
MDG   . . . this is a HYPOTHETICAL discussion :stooges...   Oct 4 2012, 06:02 PM
SirAndy   FIRST PLEASE READ THIS POST IN IT'SENTIRETY B...   Oct 4 2012, 11:58 AM
SirAndy   No matter how you slice it (pun intended): - If ...   Oct 4 2012, 12:03 PM
patrick3000   No matter how you slice it (pun intended): - If...   Oct 4 2012, 02:19 PM
rick 918-S   Good question. We transfer chassis numbers when we...   Oct 4 2012, 12:05 PM
SirAndy   Good question. We transfer chassis numbers when we...   Oct 4 2012, 12:48 PM
rick 918-S   Good question. We transfer chassis numbers when w...   Oct 4 2012, 01:37 PM
SirAndy   Ok, let me try it this way. I have a car with a ru...   Oct 4 2012, 04:23 PM
bandjoey   I can't vote because it doesn't matter to ...   Oct 4 2012, 12:42 PM
SirAndy   I can't vote because it doesn't matter to...   Oct 4 2012, 12:49 PM
Racer Chris   I voted option 2, even though it doesn't prope...   Oct 4 2012, 12:58 PM
'73-914kid   This certainly brings up the situation that you se...   Oct 4 2012, 01:11 PM
carr914   No matter how you slice it (pun intended): - If...   Oct 4 2012, 01:16 PM
chuckc   No matter how you slice it (pun intended): - I...   Oct 5 2012, 06:48 AM
mepstein   [quote name='carr914' post='1748616' date='Oct 4 ...   Oct 5 2012, 06:53 AM
timothy_nd28   :agree:   Oct 4 2012, 01:16 PM
balljoint   “This, milord, is my family’s axe. We have own...   Oct 4 2012, 01:22 PM
balljoint   Ship of Theseus   Oct 4 2012, 01:24 PM
Jgilliam914   I do understand the " poll question " I ...   Oct 4 2012, 01:36 PM
Jgilliam914   I do understand the " poll question " I...   Oct 4 2012, 01:39 PM
shoguneagle   Restore the original Sixer for all the reasoning g...   Oct 4 2012, 01:52 PM
Scott S   I just witnessed this scenario happen with a 100S ...   Oct 4 2012, 02:37 PM
Gustl   I'd say - no matter what you do, do it well do...   Oct 4 2012, 02:39 PM
Jgilliam914   :agree: I'd say - no matter what you do, do i...   Oct 4 2012, 03:04 PM
mepstein   Most of the value of a six is in it's vin. She...   Oct 4 2012, 03:19 PM
toolguy   You should have added another voting possibility ...   Oct 4 2012, 03:24 PM
scotty b   You should have added another voting possibility ...   Oct 4 2012, 03:39 PM
zymurgist   The problem with swapping the VIN is one of proven...   Oct 4 2012, 03:24 PM
Cairo94507   I believe that taking the VIN off a rusted out six...   Oct 4 2012, 03:44 PM
turk22   I understand the subtleties of the discussion... ...   Oct 4 2012, 06:07 PM
bulitt   At what point does the car cease to be original? ...   Oct 4 2012, 06:16 PM
timothy_nd28   Or even take it a step further, what if restoratio...   Oct 4 2012, 06:24 PM
SirAndy   Or even take it a step further, what if restoratio...   Oct 4 2012, 06:31 PM
Elliot Cannon   I can't speak to the laws in other states but ...   Oct 4 2012, 06:31 PM
Michael N   I say if the vin and parts get moved to a /4 tub i...   Oct 4 2012, 06:51 PM
edwin   Had a discussion like this with a friend at a car ...   Oct 4 2012, 07:24 PM
kg6dxn   There was an article recently in Panorama about a ...   Oct 4 2012, 07:47 PM
jersey914   This one seems pretty simple to me. You have a per...   Oct 4 2012, 07:51 PM
bandjoey   If you look at the 6 in the other thread that star...   Oct 4 2012, 07:51 PM
mepstein   Scott - I thought you said the switch would stay o...   Oct 4 2012, 07:56 PM
hot_shoe914   Okay, let's start with Christine. She has had ...   Oct 4 2012, 08:05 PM
SirAndy   You people over thing everything I don't think...   Oct 4 2012, 08:16 PM
MDG   How would you feel if you just paid $50k for...   Oct 5 2012, 05:59 AM
John   If I could, I would gladly "buy" a 914/6...   Oct 4 2012, 08:16 PM
914Sixer   About 10 yrs back I remember seeing a real 6 body ...   Oct 4 2012, 08:33 PM
bigkensteele   In my view, this is a matter of yet another poorly...   Oct 4 2012, 08:35 PM
scotty b   In my view, this is a matter of yet another poorl...   Oct 4 2012, 08:45 PM
Todd Enlund   If you built a very nice replica of a /6 on a /4 t...   Oct 4 2012, 09:00 PM
poorsche914   SCENARIO 1: cutting up a rusty /6 and replacing al...   Oct 4 2012, 10:11 PM
SirAndy   Why is one acceptable and the other not? :confuse...   Oct 4 2012, 10:51 PM
pete-stevers   I think you would disclose the 4 tub with the 6 vi...   Oct 4 2012, 10:55 PM
rdauenhauer   Lets be clear here folks, the root of this entire ...   Oct 4 2012, 11:34 PM
ScoopLV   Lets be clear here folks, the root of this entire...   Oct 12 2012, 10:15 AM
toolguy   You should have added another voting possibility...   Oct 4 2012, 11:47 PM
Michael N   What about a certain prototype? If the vin was mov...   Oct 5 2012, 12:16 AM
carr914   Maybe this perspective will explain things This c...   Oct 5 2012, 02:58 AM
Garold Shaffer   I would vote option Q :shades2: Me, Swap all th...   Oct 5 2012, 04:44 AM
flipb   I would vote option Q :shades2: Me, Swap all t...   Oct 5 2012, 10:07 AM
BajaXJ92   I would vote option Q :shades2: Me, Swap all ...   Oct 5 2012, 08:09 PM
Series9   I think about this from time to time and see both ...   Oct 5 2012, 05:20 AM
Richard Casto   Someone already beat me, but it is worth posting a...   Oct 5 2012, 08:41 AM
Racer Chris   ... In my opinion, the correct (and ethical) ans...   Oct 5 2012, 09:40 AM
Jesco Reient   ... In my opinion, the correct (and ethical) an...   Oct 5 2012, 06:10 PM
kg6dxn   Moving a VIN from one vehicle to another is not l...   Oct 5 2012, 06:14 PM
balljoint   Someone already beat me, but it is worth posting ...   Oct 5 2012, 01:35 PM
timothy_nd28   What about this, The German workers at the Porsch...   Oct 5 2012, 11:14 AM
Jgilliam914   What about this, The German workers at the Porsc...   Oct 5 2012, 11:58 AM
BK911   Is the amount of repair panels allowed quantified ...   Oct 5 2012, 11:44 AM
carr914   What about this, The German workers at the Porsc...   Oct 5 2012, 12:32 PM
Rockaria   It would be fraud to swap the vin numbers.. plain ...   Oct 5 2012, 01:02 PM
MDG   :idea: I wonder how many late 60s/early 70s Must...   Oct 5 2012, 02:25 PM
TJB/914   :idea: I wonder how many late 60s/early 70s Mus...   Oct 5 2012, 08:21 PM
Jesco Reient   :idea: I wonder how many late 60s/early 70s Mu...   Oct 6 2012, 12:38 PM
preach   I had an experience with this sort of thing before...   Oct 5 2012, 02:40 PM
bulitt   When do we start the discussion about salvage titl...   Oct 5 2012, 07:44 PM
bandjoey   Ready for some new metal...Will it be the same car...   Oct 7 2012, 10:14 AM
Sleepin   As long as you "move all the /4 parts to the ...   Oct 7 2012, 12:33 PM
kg6dxn   I'm thinking about swapping my 914 VIN out for...   Oct 7 2012, 09:07 PM
Jgilliam914   I'm thinking about swapping my 914 VIN out fo...   Oct 7 2012, 10:32 PM
rjames   :agree: If you're really just swapping the...   Oct 12 2012, 11:14 AM


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