Did someone say 914 rear hollow swaybar?, I considering building them. |
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Did someone say 914 rear hollow swaybar?, I considering building them. |
Ira Ramin |
Feb 17 2005, 01:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 4-February 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 237 |
Trekkor,
The bar mounts in a different position, about 3” forward. I figured that was no big deal since most cars don’t have factory brackets anyways. Thanks for offering to help with testing. I wish that I had built three sets, but I only built two and they’re already spoken for. I’ll definitely keep you in mind if things don’t work out with them, or for the next batch. Andy, I will probably be doing a version that could be mounted in the trunk. It may only consist of changing to a longer drop link, possibly the one that I use on the front swaybar. Keep in mind that it will need more than just a hole in the floor for the drop link. It will need a long slot to allow for the adjustment. Hopefully I will end up with a design that will work good without needing to be mounted in the trunk. Brad, The bar is on its way to the shop for Bill’s car. Chris, What do you think about mounting the bar below the transmission and connecting the drop link the way you did? It would probably solve the possible binding and clearance issues, and the geometry might be a little better than your current setup. It would be similar to my rear 911 design. Figuring out what to mount the bearing blocks to would be a little bit of a challenge. Ira |
TravisNeff |
Feb 17 2005, 04:56 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Since the dogbone/tranny mount seems to be a bit of an obstacle, what if you reverse positioned the bar, not upside down - but turn it around.
Something like this: obviously the pillow blocks would need to be further inward due to the rear shock mount cutouts, hell it is an idea... Attached image(s) |
TravisNeff |
Feb 17 2005, 04:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Also, since the bars up an down movement is in unisyn (sort of) with the shock and control arm, I don't know how there would be an interference with the rear shocks. As long as there is X amount of room away from them, that X should always stay the same, no?
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Ira Ramin |
Feb 18 2005, 12:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 4-February 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 237 |
Travis,
Your sketch has the best geometry of any of the designs but I think that the engine or the starter may be in the way. I think we considered mounting that way, but it’s definitely worth taking another look. We’ll be installing the prototype on Saturday morning and will try to take a fresh look at the other possibilities. I see what you’re saying about clearing the shocks, it makes sense. Ira |
ChrisFoley |
Feb 18 2005, 05:49 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,934 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
If you made long mounting blocks to position the bar beneath the tranny (at the back) you still have exhaust interference issues to deal with (except with the Tangerine header), as well as worker access issues. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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TravisNeff |
Feb 18 2005, 09:50 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Should be no problems with engine interference, but I didn't think about the starter. that'll be a tight fit.
Or you could do a through body one (like the front) but have it in the trunk going through the walls of the rear strut mounts, obviously you would need longer and doglegged arms for clearance. |
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