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Moving my engine, Where ? |
oldschool |
Nov 6 2012, 01:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
Can someone show me the best place to hoist my engine from?
I still have the front engine bar... Is that a good place? |
JRust |
Nov 6 2012, 01:55 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,307 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Can someone show me the best place to hoist my engine from? I still have the front engine bar... Is that a good place? So you roll it under the car with the tranny. Then use the hoist to bring it up? Should work fine off the engine bar. I would pull the engine lid & rear trunk lid. Just to ensure you don't put pressure or rub either. I usually just use the floor jack. Then balance the motor & tranny on it. Never had any problems that way. I've never had a hoist to use but don't see any reason it isn't a good way to go. Good to hear you are getting your rotary in & set. Congrats (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
wingnut86 |
Nov 6 2012, 02:00 PM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
I prefer straps or 2 friends. Never use the HE, Exhausts or sheet metal. Preferably the sheet metal should be removed while still on the lower position of a carpet dolly, 4 x 4s or the lowered jack. 2 hefty guys, or 1 wide shouldered strong man holding the bar and about 200 lbs, and another guy in the rear holding the tranny. Use a strap around the tranny, but forward of the tail if possible with 2 more around each bar support arm - watch interference with reverse switch, 90° speedo drive, etc. You can use extended bolts through the magnesium cooler shroud, but the locations escape me, and most folks shudder to think about this.
For a metal engine stand, you need the tranny and flywheel removed for clearance issues as well as obvious attachment points. Some guys use a home built wooden dolly that allows leaving the majority of the engine in place, using the front mount bar and tranny support flanges as the outrigger supports. The Type IV rattles a bit if not tuned properly, so if running it on a home built dolly, use extended 2 x 4 outriggers to ground on each side like Van's excellent 914 rebuild site shows... Be Safe. Dave Can someone show me the best place to hoist my engine from? I still have the front engine bar... Is that a good place? |
JmuRiz |
Nov 6 2012, 02:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,426 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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'73-914kid |
Nov 6 2012, 02:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
a tie strap or chain around the two engine mount bar bolt, and then a chain bolted through the flywheel inspection hole in the bellhousing of the engine case. You have to make sure that wherever you attatch it, you can get the engine stand on the back of the case.
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02loftsmoor |
Nov 6 2012, 02:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
you have to watch that my engine mount rubbers broke and that bar came off.
a tie strap or chain around the two engine mount bar bolt, and then a chain bolted through the flywheel inspection hole in the bellhousing of the engine case. You have to make sure that wherever you attatch it, you can get the engine stand on the back of the case. |
SirAndy |
Nov 6 2012, 02:57 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
you have to watch that my engine mount rubbers broke and that bar came off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) On later cars with the sideshifter tranny, the enigne mount bar is attached to the engine with only two small rubber pucks! If those break while you're hoisting the engine, it'll fall on the floor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
Rand |
Nov 6 2012, 03:25 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Where (your subtopic) is really the question. Two man job to put it anywhere you want. But you said hoist.... You mean you want to lift it to a high shelf? If you just want to move it around on the floor....
http://www.harborfreight.com/movers-dolly-93888.html |
oldschool |
Nov 6 2012, 06:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
Can someone show me the best place to hoist my engine from? I still have the front engine bar... Is that a good place? So you roll it under the car with the tranny. Then use the hoist to bring it up? Should work fine off the engine bar. I would pull the engine lid & rear trunk lid. Just to ensure you don't put pressure or rub either. I usually just use the floor jack. Then balance the motor & tranny on it. Never had any problems that way. I've never had a hoist to use but don't see any reason it isn't a good way to go. Good to hear you are getting your rotary in & set. Congrats (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Jamie not the Rotary car, This is my white car I'm putting a 2.0 in it. And I was wanting to know where on the engine block? |
oldschool |
Nov 6 2012, 06:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
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SirAndy |
Nov 6 2012, 06:20 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
This is my white car I'm putting a 2.0 in it. And I was wanting to know where on the engine block? I'm confused as to why you would need a hoist at all ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
SirAndy |
Nov 6 2012, 06:22 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I want to lift to a work table and it does not have a trans.... Get a buddy, give him a beer, then have him grab one side, you grab the other and you lift the engine on the work table. No problem at all ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
oldschool |
Nov 6 2012, 09:04 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
This is my white car I'm putting a 2.0 in it. And I was wanting to know where on the engine block? I'm confused as to why you would need a hoist at all ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I have a few engines to lift, At this point they are all on dollies so moving is easy. ...but lifting..I jacked up my back, already. So I got a lift/hoist/ So here is a photo of the pick up points... Attached thumbnail(s) |
wingnut86 |
Nov 6 2012, 09:24 PM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
NOT the heat exchangers!!!
You will tork more than your back if you do that to the heads. That's where the HEs bolt into the motor... Of course if cash is no object, then HAM and Jake sell nice upgraded units for about 3K a pair... |
Kirmizi |
Nov 6 2012, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
Don't involve the heat exchangers/exhaust for lifting. Use a third body, one for the flywheel end and one on each end of the engine bar. It's not much weight, just "bulky" to lift.
The T-IV engine is actually pretty easy to handle with enough people. Mike |
oldschool |
Nov 6 2012, 10:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
Will do... Thanks everyone
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silver74insocal |
Nov 6 2012, 11:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 736 Joined: 26-November 09 From: rancho cucamonga Member No.: 11,073 Region Association: Southern California |
rename your post "free beer in pomona" the problem will solve itself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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'73-914kid |
Nov 6 2012, 11:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
I've told Jaime that before..haha I'm sure we could lift that ourselves man..just remove the he's..and we're golden. I'll even bring a buddy from school to help lift it.
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oldschool |
Nov 7 2012, 02:39 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,362 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
Ok..that sounds like a plan...
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sean_v8_914 |
Nov 7 2012, 08:32 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
it wont fall on the floor...it will fall on your foot
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