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scotty b
post Nov 8 2012, 08:54 PM
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I'm currently doing an all over color change on a car including some collision damage. I routinely use a product called Slick Sand to speed up the process. It is essentially a spray on bondo. This time, I put the product on last Saturday morning. It normally takes 12-24 hours to be able to sand, depending on temp. As of today, it is still soft. On Monday I spoke to my paint rep about it. First thing she asked me was " how old is the hardener " ? It was about 6 months old, but in the past I have regularly used hardener that was within a year old.

She now explained to me that aparently the gov't has declared that the chemical in hardeners as a preservative, is now outlawed. This issue of non hardening putty and spray poly's is becoming more and more of an issue bacause no one was told of this.

I was advised that any tubes past their date should be thrown out immediately, and any hardener that has been opened and will not be used within a month should also be tossed.

If you look at the crimped end of the tube there is an almost illegible number stamped into the crimping. THIS is the experation date. Good luck reading it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I now have to sad off all of the primer I put on this car. there goes a day plus in time and probably a roll of sandpaper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:01 PM
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This is the date code (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


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post Nov 8 2012, 09:02 PM
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sorry I can't get a clear pic that close up ,but it pretty much is as clear as mud
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:07 PM
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Damn it buddy that really sucks. I honestly believe this is a week of mondays.
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(Woody @ Nov 8 2012, 07:07 PM) *

Damn it buddy that really sucks. I honestly believe this is a week of mondays.


yeah, definitely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:14 PM
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Is a bodywok one of those Japanese frying pans?
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:15 PM
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(MDG @ Nov 8 2012, 07:14 PM) *

Is a bodywok one of those Japanese frying pans?



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) bite me moose breath (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


yoo too " evil " (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:24 PM
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Don't hate the Mikes, Scotty.
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:33 PM
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:34 PM
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post Nov 8 2012, 09:45 PM
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When I was selling Paint, the Government intrusion sucked, I can only imagine now
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post Nov 8 2012, 10:11 PM
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YIKES - i tho't it was only a problem for us sunny-cal CARB-controlled folks


QUOTE(scotty b @ Nov 8 2012, 06:54 PM) *

I'm currently doing an all over color change on a car including some collision damage. I routinely use a product called Slick Sand to speed up the process. It is essentially a spray on bondo. This time, I put the product on last Saturday morning. It normally takes 12-24 hours to be able to sand, depending on temp. As of today, it is still soft. On Monday I spoke to my paint rep about it. First thing she asked me was " how old is the hardener " ? It was about 6 months old, but in the past I have regularly used hardener that was within a year old.

She now explained to me that aparently the gov't has declared that the chemical in hardeners as a preservative, is now outlawed. This issue of non hardening putty and spray poly's is becoming more and more of an issue bacause no one was told of this.

I was advised that any tubes past their date should be thrown out immediately, and any hardener that has been opened and will not be used within a month should also be tossed.

If you look at the crimped end of the tube there is an almost illegible number stamped into the crimping. THIS is the experation date. Good luck reading it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I now have to sad off all of the primer I put on this car. there goes a day plus in time and probably a roll of sandpaper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Nov 8 2012, 10:30 PM
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We could always buy some in Mexico then drive it across.
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post Nov 8 2012, 10:59 PM
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That reminds me of when Clark Foam was the #1 go-to for surfboard foam.
The EPA forced him to change the recipe of the foam.

The first of these surfboard blanks that I got looked and shaped the same.
The fiberglass work was fine until I got to the sand coat. It never kicked 100%? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Do you know how hard it is to sand gummy resin? Not yet?
I had to use lots of 60 grit at low speed to load up the paper. Some would ball up and fling off.
This went on for about 10 boards then just stopped happening. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I never knew what hit me until a year later when a letter was sent out explaining what had happened.
The blanks were gassing. By the time you were sealing the board with the sand coat the gas had no place to go but through the curing resin.
The resin never had a chance to relax.
Clark was the first, the biggest and the best blank Co. Made in California, USA. One day he just quit. I am sure he never spoke to the EPA again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Thank you for the warning scotty.
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post Nov 9 2012, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(MDG @ Nov 8 2012, 07:14 PM) *

Is a bodywok one of those Japanese frying pans?

Chinese. Actually. I think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Nov 8 2012, 08:11 PM) *

Stop complaining. The EPA has made life better for every living being. Uh, except for humans who work for a living.

If it wasn't for the EPA, we couldn't have the G&R swap meet. Because the air in Riverside would be totally unbreathable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Nov 9 2012, 07:37 AM
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Probably cheaper to ship a 914 to un-regulated china, have them repair it and ship it back.
Hey maybe they could reverse engineer it. Body in white at HFreight- 599$

The problem with regulation is- for every regulation you then need to put on an army of inspectors to (supposedly) enforce it. Regulation creates jobs!
Now trying to repeal the regulation becomes quite the task.

Sorry for the rant- but its this exact example of a guy in America trying to make a living only to be set back by restrictive regs that pisses me off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Nov 9 2012, 10:08 AM
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Id be a little pissed with your rep for not doing his job. These are the kind of details he should know...
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