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> Another clutch tube on the LOOSE, (EDIT) Not a clutch tube problem..... H E L P
jsayre914
post Nov 9 2012, 10:41 AM
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Got off work last night and car started right up, its running awesome. Pulled to the traffic light, sitting in neutral. Light turns green, I reach for the clutch, its not where it was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Its half way down to the floor, no gears at all. I roll to the side and adjust the nut all the way in on the tranny adjustment, pedal comes back up, till I push on it.... I get my buddy to pull behind me and give me a push to engage 2nd and I make it through 3 lights speed shifting till I get to 83. Then it was smooth sailing, speed shifting is easy (stopping is hard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) When I got to the end of the highway, I kept it in 2nd and timed each light (chugging to the red ones.

I made it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)


Now where are all those threads on clutch tube repair ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)



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post Nov 9 2012, 02:38 PM
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If only you had a bud with a welder.
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post Nov 9 2012, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Nov 9 2012, 03:38 PM) *

If only you had a bud with a welder.


I still need to investigate. I am working all the time, and then I am home trying to finish the new bathroom. Car time does not exist at this time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I think my next step would be to remove the console, carpet, shifter. Then see if the tube is in fact loose. I have a good view from the back, the tube is solid there with no cracking. I also saw the pivot arm is in the same position that its always been. So prolly not a tranny problem.


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post Nov 9 2012, 05:33 PM
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You might be able to temporarily bolt the tube to the tunnel to squeeze out a couple more miles until Zach warms up his welder (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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post Nov 10 2012, 08:24 AM
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If its not the clutch tube or the clutch cable, check to see if you've sheared the roll pin at the pedal where it attaches to the shaft in the pedal cluster.
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post Nov 10 2012, 08:45 AM
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The fact that you tightened the nut down, got pedal back and then it went away once you pushed it bothers me. Check the pin like Chris mentioned, and if that is fine then look at the throwout arm as well. I've seen a couple of them actually crack in two. Usually at the fingers on one end or the others, but I have seen one break near the center of the arm. I always assumed that one had been in an accident and no-one noticed it was bent until it broke (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Nov 10 2012, 08:47 AM
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Oh and the firewall....definitely look at the firewall where the tube comes through. That would also explain why you got pedal back then lost it under pressure again
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post Nov 11 2012, 06:29 PM
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post Nov 11 2012, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Nov 11 2012, 07:29 PM) *

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Car is sitting under the umbrella cover, I have had NO time to look. I am building another bathroom in my closet. Driving the Suby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


I will get to it
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post Nov 11 2012, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Nov 11 2012, 04:48 PM) *

QUOTE(scotty b @ Nov 11 2012, 07:29 PM) *

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I am building another bathroom in my closet.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) 5 gallon bucket ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 12 2012, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Nov 11 2012, 08:10 PM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) 5 gallon bucket ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


See for yourself

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post Nov 14 2012, 11:13 AM
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Had an hour to take a look.

Pulled the rear acess panel in the center and tube is perfect, no wiggle. Looked under the gearshifter, tube was strong and weld was perfect. Not a Clutch tube problem. Pedal cluster was perfect, rebuilt recently and the small piece with the pin was fine.

Now onto the tranny.

I put the cable back on till it was tight like it should be, it took about 20 washers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) and the fork was angled slightly tward the rear of the car. I know thats not right. I removed the cable and noticed that there is about an inch of slop on the fork. It has too much play. it now sits in the middle of the hole and I can wiggle it foreward and backward.


What happened????

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Oh yeah, its a new clutch with less than 10k miles
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post Nov 14 2012, 11:27 AM
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A couple of things could have happend but I would guess that one of the spacers that goes between the TO Bearing and the Y Fork broke or the plastic spacer in the ball cup in the Y Fork broke!
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post Nov 14 2012, 11:32 AM
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Cable could be breaking a few strands at a time and stretching.
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post Nov 14 2012, 11:57 AM
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My wife's clutch started needing adjustment weekly ... then daily. When we puled the drive train - turned out to be the cable (stretching).

If you pull the drive train and it turns out to be your throw our arm bushing, replace it with a bronze one 'while you're in there' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Nice bathroom addition too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Nov 14 2012, 10:13 AM) *

...I removed the cable and noticed that there is about an inch of slop on the fork. It has too much play. it now sits in the middle of the hole and I can wiggle it foreward and backward....


My bet is that either the bushing (Plastic Ball Cup) under the fork or the small clip holding the clutch fork got loose and the fork is now just dangling. Can you pull down on the fork and does it come loose from the throwout bearing?

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post Nov 14 2012, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Nov 14 2012, 09:57 AM) *

My wife's clutch started needing adjustment weekly ... then daily. When we puled the drive train - turned out to be the cable (stretching).

If you pull the drive train and it turns out to be your throw our arm bushing, replace it with a bronze one 'while you're in there' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Nice bathroom addition too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)


"Bronze one"?

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post Nov 14 2012, 01:14 PM
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With the exception of the firewall bushing (replaced that with a CFR spherical), we replaced all the plastic bushings with bronze ones. Maybe THOMAS made the ones I have? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Nov 14 2012, 08:37 PM
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The good news is that pulling the trans is not nearly as involved as pulling the whole engine.
Sounds like you will need to do that.
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Not the cable. If the arm has that much slop, then it is a pivot/retainer and bolt/ arm/bushing issue. The cable may be contributing, but it is not the primary cause.
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