Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> How Do I Disassemble the E-Brake Tubes ?
cary
post Nov 18 2012, 09:07 PM
Post #1


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,900
Joined: 26-January 04
From: Sherwood Oregon
Member No.: 1,608
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



How do I take this apart without destroying the tubes?

Attached Image

Just cut around it when I removed the inner firewall.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Eric_Shea
post Nov 18 2012, 09:08 PM
Post #2


PMB Performance
***************

Group: Admin
Posts: 19,275
Joined: 3-September 03
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Member No.: 1,110
Region Association: Rocky Mountains



Remove the spring and put another tub around it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
scotty b
post Nov 18 2012, 09:16 PM
Post #3


rust free you say ?
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 16,375
Joined: 7-January 05
From: richmond, Va.
Member No.: 3,419
Region Association: None



QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Nov 18 2012, 07:08 PM) *

Remove the spring and put another tub around it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cary
post Nov 18 2012, 09:30 PM
Post #4


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,900
Joined: 26-January 04
From: Sherwood Oregon
Member No.: 1,608
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



That's kind of what I was thinking.

Can I melt the brazing with a torch?
Uncharted territory for me.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
scotty b
post Nov 18 2012, 09:38 PM
Post #5


rust free you say ?
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 16,375
Joined: 7-January 05
From: richmond, Va.
Member No.: 3,419
Region Association: None



QUOTE(cary @ Nov 18 2012, 07:30 PM) *

That's kind of what I was thinking.

Can I melt the brazing with a torch?
Uncharted territory for me.

I don't think a mapp gas will do it. You're going to need an oxy acetylene setup, but yes you need to melt off the brass.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cary
post Nov 18 2012, 09:55 PM
Post #6


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,900
Joined: 26-January 04
From: Sherwood Oregon
Member No.: 1,608
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



I'll try my oxy/mapp. If its a no go. I'll have the welding/steel shop do it for me. Thanks ...................
I need another sheet of 18 gauge.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
McMark
post Nov 18 2012, 10:33 PM
Post #7


914 Freak!
***************

Group: Retired Admin
Posts: 20,179
Joined: 13-March 03
From: Grand Rapids, MI
Member No.: 419
Region Association: None



Die grinder with a carbide cutter.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cary
post Nov 18 2012, 11:23 PM
Post #8


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,900
Joined: 26-January 04
From: Sherwood Oregon
Member No.: 1,608
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



I do have one of those. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ThePaintedMan
post Nov 19 2012, 02:24 PM
Post #9


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,886
Joined: 6-September 11
From: St. Petersburg, FL
Member No.: 13,527
Region Association: South East States



QUOTE(scotty b @ Nov 18 2012, 10:38 PM) *

QUOTE(cary @ Nov 18 2012, 07:30 PM) *

That's kind of what I was thinking.

Can I melt the brazing with a torch?
Uncharted territory for me.

I don't think a mapp gas will do it. You're going to need an oxy acetylene setup, but yes you need to melt off the brass.



I can confirm that MAPP gas won't do it. It gets on the verge of melting, almost like tar, but not enough to actually melt. I learned this the hard way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Either cut it out, grind it out or find someone with an oxy setup.

-George
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
FourBlades
post Nov 19 2012, 06:48 PM
Post #10


From Wreck to Rockin
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,054
Joined: 3-December 07
From: Brevard, FL
Member No.: 8,414
Region Association: South East States




I cut a square around the inside panel and the outside panel with both tubes in it
and took the whole thing out as unit.

After fixing both sides of the firewall, I just welded both sides back.

If what you have left is saveable this might be easier.

Then you are just welding steel.

John
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cary
post Nov 19 2012, 07:37 PM
Post #11


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,900
Joined: 26-January 04
From: Sherwood Oregon
Member No.: 1,608
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



Oxy/Mapp torch took care of the brazing.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Gudhjem
post Feb 18 2014, 12:04 PM
Post #12


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 133
Joined: 29-March 07
From: Castro Valley, CA
Member No.: 7,629
Region Association: Northern California



Resurrecting old thread because it's the closest thing to an answer I could found.

I need to remove the E-brake tubes - the ones that are brazed through the firewall. The inner (passenger) firewall is rusted around the tubes, so I'll be cutting what's left of the wall out and grinding off the metal and brazing. I have the replacement panel that the tubes will then go back through, and probably get re-brazed.

But for the engine side of the firewall, it would be nice to leave the holes intact, and just pull the tubes through, but it sounds like un-brazing the tubes to do that is more difficult that just cutting out the firewall around them and re-welding it back in, especially without an oxy-acetylene setup.

What if I used this as an excuse to get an OA setup? Is it still easier just to cut and re-weld? I've never brazed, so not sure what's involved in getting a good joint. Any insights?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cary
post Feb 19 2014, 08:27 AM
Post #13


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,900
Joined: 26-January 04
From: Sherwood Oregon
Member No.: 1,608
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



I now have a small OA setup so I'm going to learn.

I'm fairly efficient at electrical and copper pipe soldering so it shouldn't be too hard.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Luke M
post Feb 22 2014, 10:18 AM
Post #14


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,371
Joined: 8-February 05
From: WNY
Member No.: 3,574
Region Association: North East States



Just ran across this. I'm going to be doing the same thing here soon on my brothers car. We will be replacing the lower firewall inside and out. My plan is to copy the tubes in mild steel or stainless. Welding the tubes in can be done if you're careful and have the welder setup properly. I also have to tackle the clutch tube coming out the lower engine side. That maybe tricky to weld as the metal is old and do not want weld slag in the clutch tube. Brazing the tubes may also be the only option to doing this.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 14th May 2024 - 02:34 AM