Paint Guns - HVLP *VS* Standard, Opinions needed for a garage paint job Options

[saigon71]

While not close to painting my car yet, I have purchased the paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I know the best thing to do is take it to a professional, but I simply can't afford it. It will be a garage paint job. I will be shooting single stage acrylic enamel. My painting experience consists of using canned spray paint on a 1970 Volkswagon Karmann Ghia in a rented garage in the middle of summer 22 years ago.

A few months back, I picked up a standard Kobalt paint kit from Lowes. But I was wondering if I would be better off with an HVLP setup. What is the best paint gun setup for a complete amateur on a budget?

Thanks,

Bob

[scotty b]

http://www.amazon.com/Devilbiss-Finishline...biss+finishline

You don't have to have it, but HVLP is far superior. You will use les paint, get in to tight areas a little better, use every bit of the paint that you mix. Plus you won't be turning everything in the garge green (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[saigon71]

Forgot to mention, I am working with a 2HP, 30 gal Husky air compressor from Hone Depot. Will this handle an HVLP gun?

[3d914]

Bob, you'll need to get the CFM specs on your compressor. For example, the gun suggested above requires 13 CFM at 23 PSI.

[saigon71]

Thanks for the education on the subject gents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Brutal...just looked up the specs on my compressor. "The Husky 30-Gallon Portable Electric Air Compressor can deliver 3 - 6 SCFM at 90 PSI for a quiet airflow."

Looks like I am stuck with an old school paint gun setup.

[wingnut86]

You can rent a compressor if you need it to prime. Then wet sand for a week or 2 and rent another one for an 18 hour paint marathon.

[76-914]

Thanks for the education on the subject gents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Brutal...just looked up the specs on my compressor. "The Husky 30-Gallon Portable Electric Air Compressor can deliver 3 - 6 SCFM at 90 PSI for a quiet airflow."

Looks like I am stuck with an old school paint gun setup.

Bob, see what your compressor is rated for at 23psi (if that's what your gun calls for), not at 90psi. I've got the Chinese knock-off that De Vil that Scotty posted above. It's about $90 and a good gun but mine is set at 45psi at the gun, IIRC. I just switched to HVLP 2 yr's ago. I can see a lot better in my garage booth with hvlp vs regular gun. Less fog/over spray.

[saigon71]

After some internet research, I found an HVLP paint gun with a lower CFM requirement that my compressor will handle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) My one car garage is attached to the house and my washer & dryer are out there, so overspray is a big concern. Took the standard gun back to Lowes today and picked up an HVLP.

As usual, thanks for the feedback gents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[jbyron]

Bob-

If you don't mind, would you post a link to the sprayer you bought? Also, a review of the gun after you've used it would be helpful.

Thanks,

Jamie

[ThePaintedMan]

Hey Bob,
From experience, I can tell you that no matter what gun you use, or how big the shop, without significant negative pressure, you will still have large issues with overspray. Make sure you cover anything you don't want to turn the color of your paint. Otherwise, you will be using a clay bar on your washer and dryer, trust me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

-George

[IronHillRestorations]

That compressor may not be enough. Scotty can probably give you more info than me, but from my experience small compressors seem to create more moisture problems.

[worn]

While not close to painting my car yet, I have purchased the paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I know the best thing to do is take it to a professional, but I simply can't afford it. It will be a garage paint job. I will be shooting single stage acrylic enamel. My painting experience consists of using canned spray paint on a 1970 Volkswagon Karmann Ghia in a rented garage in the middle of summer 22 years ago.

A few months back, I picked up a standard Kobalt paint kit from Lowes. But I was wondering if I would be better off with an HVLP setup. What is the best paint gun setup for a complete amateur on a budget?

Thanks,

Bob

Make sure that you also get a stand, or make one, that will allow you to set the gun down while full, and preferably while still hooked to the hose. You will find you need your hands free right in the middle of something.

Also, the investment in a supplied air system is expensive and also worth the money. I have a beard, so even with hand cream saturating it the masks don't seal, so positive pressure is important to me. Even if that isn't a problem for you, the paints contain very very reactive substances that are toxic until they react. If you breathe them in, they will react with what makes you you.

[jmmotorsports]

my guns are all SATA about $700 each eastwood has a niceone for under 200 cheap ones never workvery good

[scotty b]

That compressor may not be enough. Scotty can probably give you more info than me, but from my experience small compressors seem to create more moisture problems.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) the small comressor will work, but it will be running constantly. If you can bear it, put the compressor inside. That way it will be a little warmer than outside which will help with the condensation you'll get this time of year. A cheapo moisture filter would also help. You don't need anything fancy, just a toilet paper typer. ( I'm not sure what the proper term for them is )

http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/motorguard...60-p-11897.aspx

[boogie_man]

Make sure those appliances aren't gas with "pilot" lights too or boom boom
out go the lights (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif)

[hot_shoe914]

I say rent hookers and buy good scotch and send Scotty a roundtrip bus ticket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[zig-n-zag]

Check out the Earlex HVLP spray station at www.woodcraft.com.

[saigon71]

Bob-

If you don't mind, would you post a link to the sprayer you bought? Also, a review of the gun after you've used it would be helpful.

Thanks,

Jamie

I will probably get blasted for this purchase, but after reading the reviews, I bought two of these guns in case one gives me problems on paint day. Picked up two paint guns, disposable paint cups, filters, strainers and a stand for under $60. The gun will be thoroughly cleaned before use...and will be tested on the engine bay before used on the exterior. Will give an honest review of the gun after use.

http://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-high-vo...-gun-47016.html

[saigon71]

While not close to painting my car yet, I have purchased the paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I know the best thing to do is take it to a professional, but I simply can't afford it. It will be a garage paint job. I will be shooting single stage acrylic enamel. My painting experience consists of using canned spray paint on a 1970 Volkswagon Karmann Ghia in a rented garage in the middle of summer 22 years ago.

A few months back, I picked up a standard Kobalt paint kit from Lowes. But I was wondering if I would be better off with an HVLP setup. What is the best paint gun setup for a complete amateur on a budget?

Thanks,

Bob

Make sure that you also get a stand, or make one, that will allow you to set the gun down while full, and preferably while still hooked to the hose. You will find you need your hands free right in the middle of something.

Also, the investment in a supplied air system is expensive and also worth the money. I have a beard, so even with hand cream saturating it the masks don't seal, so positive pressure is important to me. Even if that isn't a problem for you, the paints contain very very reactive substances that are toxic until they react. If you breathe them in, they will react with what makes you you.

Picked up stand for the gun that also holds the strainers for easy filling of the paint cup. Anything that will make the process less hassle is a good idea! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[barada]

You can use those guns. I have seen folks use them. I use them for Primer and epoxy. LAst year we did my 914 in the garage and my buddy did the final paint. He used his Satajet guns and everything went well. I have a 60 gallon compressor and it ran more than we wanted so we had to have filters in line and all over to keep water out. That is the only thing I would say on your end. If you cna use a bigger compressor , you will be happier in the end.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=136854&hl=


Good luck on the project.


Phillip