Bernie Bergmann Turbo Kit, anyone seen one? Options

[DBCooper]

COOL PHOTOS!!! This is my younger son's high school car with a Sweep the Floor turbo he put together:

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It was only together a few weeks and he was still tuning it when a policeman followed him, evidently trying to figure out what all had gone on in that engine compartment. The motor shot a three foot flame out the exhaust and scared the shit out of the cop, who gave him a fix-it ticket for a modified exhaust. He was a poor college student so a whole new exhaust was out the question and that was the last of the turbo motor.... until the car got the Subaru. But that's a whole different story...


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[Eric_Shea]

Cap'n started it.

[Chris H.]

Wait, we're not going to stop saying it are we?

[DBCooper]

Cap'n started it.

Jeez, blame everything on the Cap'n. Good thing he gives as good as he takes.

[Jonathan Livesay]

You can't turbo a 914.

Can too.

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[nsr-jamie]

Does anyone sell an actual complete bolt on kit for the 914? Turbos seem to be popular for air cooled cars in North America (with Beetles mostly) but it has not really caught on here in Japan....the old air cooled guys still prefer a big bore motor with 48mm webers.

[Rand]

Cap'n started it.

Anything that can get a rouse from Jake and Capn in the same thread is gold.

Jake can't turbo anything, and Capn cant fix shit. Lol. (If you don't know that's kidding, go back to Scotty's kindergarten class.)
Now if we could get them both on the same build, it would sell a million DVDs if there still was such a thing (monetize via Youtube? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

[Dave_Darling]

It's an old joke...don't remember how it started..probably an "expert"saying there was some mechanical or engineering limitation that prevented a type 4 from being turbocharged.

It was a tech Q&A letter to "european car" magazine. The "knowledgeable" editor responded pretty much with "you can't turbo a 914". This was at a time that SammyG had already built and sold a turbo 914 (single draw-through carb setup), Jenny's brother Jeff was in the middle of building up a D-jet turbo 914, and Evill Ed was I think also working on his CIS turbo 914. Lots of discussion on the Rennlist forum about that.

Someone wrote back to the mag, mentioning the above setups, and the response was fairly mocking. The carb setup was too simple and stupid, the others weren't done yet, blah blah blah blah.

It became a running joke, every time anyone mentioned turbocharging a 914...

--DD

[Mikey914]

Technically none of the motors were tre 914's. They have type 2 motors (or at least doghouses) or Subies,
so you can't turbo a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

[Dave_Darling]

Type IV motors in 914s, not Type II.

--DD

[daniel_best1]

Im in london and own brand new never used only run on a bench 2276 blow thru bernie bergmann turbo with dell orto carbs,,I bought from someone who imported it from california to use in his speedster that he planned to build but he never got round to it cause of other problems,,I now have it to go into a custom state of the art buggy,maybe put it into a speedster later..there is an exact same engine in a green speedster on youtube.

[jimkelly]

turbo

[Maltese Falcon]

MSDS turbo kit;

Maltese Falcon on the left Blu Kyle on the right, in my first shop in
Mar Vista.
Many type four kits sold/installed in those early days .
You can't turbo a 914, (surely not phrased by Greg Brown/Les Bidrawn) but our kits sure did put Msds on the map!
The pressurized Bergman kits were ok as long as the carb throttle shafts were o-ringed.
Sandals are still cool in So Cal !
Marty

[get off my lawn]

Wasn't it Jenny's brother who started it...?

Nope. It was Dave Darling who first told me you can't turbo a type 4 because it would run too hot and drop valve seats. IIRC that was on the renegade site.


That was a really long time ago and it got turbo'd and never got that hot or dropped a valve seat.

[Dave_Darling]

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--DD

[Maltese Falcon]

gotta love the 2 techs in jeff's post. sandals!!! muttonchops are, were, groovy.

The tech on the left would hook you up with one of these 911-Punisher kits , and the tech on the right would have it installed in a day. Or you could have one shipped as well. The beer can on the ignition coil was back from the day as well.
Marty

[FourBlades]

Fun thread.

"You can't turbo a 914" falls into the same category as "That's not a real Porsche"

The real 914 people just laugh and keep on enjoying our cars.

John

[moggy]

You can't turbo a 914.

You also can't supercharge a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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[Porscheman]

I spoke to Bernie about 10 or 15 years ago.
he told me he lost money on every turbo kit he sold because of all the bench racers and tire kickers. he had to spend countless hours answering phone calls and talking to potential cuistomers who never bought anything. In the end he threw it all in a dumpster and said good riddance.

And ferg's right, you can't turbo a 914.

Hi I'm new to 914 world ..I want to install a small supercharger on my 914 via fuel injection a small 5 to 7 psi boost ..I seen a turbo installed on a factory fuel injected motor on this page ..do I need to add a blow off valve? ..was going to install directly from super charger to my black rubber air intake hose .would like some feedback ..from anyone who supercharged or turbowed there cars .thanks .try not to laugh to hard ...but as I pass you ..going 120 .mph ..if it don't blow up ...that is .....

[r_towle]

I'm sorry, you cannot supercharge a 914.