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> LED Taillights, Custom Made for the 914
Spoke
post Jan 26 2013, 02:40 AM
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I've wanted to convert my 914 taillights to LED for a while but never got around to it.

Finally I started working on the design of the taillights. This will be a single custom PCB for each side and will have all the LEDs and control circuits on it. One PCB will be used for both sides.

The plan is to remove the existing plastic reflector and bulb assembly and mount a custom board in its place. With proper standoffs, I should be able to mount the board using the same 2 screw holes that secure the reflector.

I'm trying to decide now how many LEDs to use for each purpose. Right now, I have 8 LEDs for the backup lights, 20 LEDs for the running/Brake lights, 24 LEDs for the turnsignals, and 4 LEDs for the side marker.

I've been observing modern cars with LED taillights and some use a few LEDs (like 8) and some a lot (+20).

I would like your opinions on how many LEDs you think would be good to use. On the board below, the LEDs are spaced about 0.7 inches apart. These will be medium brightness white LEDs. (I'll let the lenses provide the color).

The first cut at the board is shown below for the driver's side. The side marker LEDs will be right angle LEDs pointing out the side of the board. They can be seen on the extreme left side of the board.

If these work out, I could manufacture them for World members. One thing though, they won't be cheap. The LEDs are about $0.50 through Digikey and there are more than 55 LEDs on each right now. Plus there's 2 dc-dc converters for providing constant current for the tail/brake and turnsignal LEDs.

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Spoke   LED Taillights   Jan 26 2013, 02:40 AM
pjhaun   Here is a YouTube video of my LED rear lights. htt...   Feb 28 2013, 10:51 AM
Spoke   Here is a YouTube video of my LED rear lights. ht...   Feb 28 2013, 11:08 AM
pjhaun   [quote name='pjhaun' post='1827476' date='Feb 28 ...   Feb 28 2013, 11:47 AM
ScoopLV   Impressive looking lights -- I particularly like t...   Feb 28 2013, 12:45 PM
pjhaun   Impressive looking lights -- I particularly like ...   Mar 11 2013, 03:22 PM
Chris H.   Check out the arrow indicators in the window! ...   Feb 28 2013, 01:59 PM
jhora   Nice Job Phillip...pretty darn cool!   Mar 11 2013, 06:53 PM
euro911   :agree: :)   Mar 11 2013, 08:35 PM
gothspeed   How is the OP Spoke doing with his LED light progr...   Mar 11 2013, 10:05 PM
Spoke   How is the OP Spoke doing with his LED light prog...   Mar 12 2013, 10:12 AM
Chris H.   [ I started designing the circuitry to provide t...   Mar 12 2013, 11:56 AM
SLKWrx   Will there be an option to not have it be sequenti...   Mar 12 2013, 10:34 AM
Spoke   Will there be an option to not have it be sequent...   Mar 12 2013, 12:15 PM
montoya 73 2.0   :popcorn:   Jun 30 2013, 09:18 PM
Cairo94507   I am really looking forward to seeing those.   Jul 1 2013, 05:21 PM
McMark   Not a fan of sequential either. When I see a Must...   Jul 1 2013, 07:14 PM
Speedmster   Spoke, how are you coming along with your LED Tail...   Oct 27 2013, 09:20 AM
veekry9   The latest craze,all in the spirit of safety. Ther...   Oct 27 2013, 07:42 PM
veekry9   PJHaun Hello. In your most recent post re the brak...   Nov 6 2013, 11:24 AM
CptTripps   I ordered a shit-ton of LEDs off of eBay a few wee...   Nov 6 2013, 11:45 AM
Spoke   I ordered a shit-ton of LEDs off of eBay a few we...   Nov 7 2013, 06:11 PM
Cairo94507   Spoke/Jerry- I am looking forward to this project ...   Nov 6 2013, 06:54 PM
Spoke   Spoke/Jerry- I am looking forward to this project...   Nov 7 2013, 06:21 PM
McMark   Aren't all white LEDs cheaper? Colors might b...   Nov 7 2013, 06:55 PM
Spoke   Aren't all white LEDs cheaper? Colors might ...   Nov 7 2013, 10:50 PM
mikesmith   Aren't all white LEDs cheaper? Colors might ...   Nov 20 2013, 05:04 PM
Spoke   The important part is that there's not very ...   Nov 27 2013, 07:28 AM
Cairo94507   As strongly as I feel about our cars needing more ...   Nov 8 2013, 08:04 AM
zymurgist   As strongly as I feel about our cars needing more...   Nov 10 2013, 07:49 AM
CptTripps   LEDs are CHEAP no matter what. I just bought 1,000...   Nov 8 2013, 08:09 AM
CptTripps   This is the layout I was thinking of doing. It...   Nov 8 2013, 09:59 AM
Chris H.   Another thing for me to copy you on Douglas....NOT...   Nov 8 2013, 10:00 AM
CptTripps   Oh I'm quite sure it'll end up quite diffe...   Nov 8 2013, 10:11 AM
veekry9   Oh I'm quite sure it'll end up quite diff...   Nov 8 2013, 02:37 PM
Harpo   :agree: Same here DAvid   Nov 10 2013, 08:36 AM
McMark   :agree: Pricing sounds about right for a quality c...   Nov 10 2013, 11:50 AM
zymurgist   Not an apples to apples comparison, but Harley-Dav...   Nov 11 2013, 05:59 AM
cpavlenko   check this out. >>>>>>. http:/...   Nov 25 2013, 11:51 PM
Scarlet75   check this out. >>>>>>. http:...   Nov 28 2013, 08:49 AM
Spoke   Here's the brake taillight board top and botto...   Nov 28 2013, 12:41 AM
zymurgist   Great to hear of your progress. :beer2:   Nov 28 2013, 07:43 AM
Cairo94507   Excellent work. Nice to see this project coming t...   Nov 28 2013, 08:05 AM
Spoke   Excellent work. Nice to see this project coming ...   Nov 30 2013, 03:21 PM
timothy_nd28   Looks awesome! Digikey charges sales tax and ...   Nov 30 2013, 03:38 PM
mikesmith   You may be better off using yellow for amber. Cert...   Nov 30 2013, 03:41 PM
McMark   If you want a spare set of taillight housings, jus...   Nov 30 2013, 07:06 PM
Spoke   If you want a spare set of taillight housings, ju...   Dec 1 2013, 01:29 AM
mikesmith   You can get bayonet to wire adapters from the usua...   Dec 1 2013, 01:35 AM
Spoke   You can get bayonet to wire adapters from the usu...   Dec 1 2013, 09:38 AM
Harpo   Glad to see more progress on this project. Keep u...   Dec 1 2013, 06:24 AM
Spoke   OK, I'm getting closer to what I need with thi...   Dec 1 2013, 09:54 AM
Spoke   OK, I'm getting closer to what I need with thi...   Dec 1 2013, 09:54 AM
Spoke   OK, I'm getting closer to what I need with thi...   Dec 1 2013, 09:54 AM
Spoke   Found this one. A bit expensive at 8.95 Euro.   Dec 1 2013, 10:05 AM
Spoke   Vintage Auto Accessories has this one. Closer To ...   Dec 1 2013, 10:15 AM
McMark   So is this board going to sit inside the 'chro...   Dec 1 2013, 02:26 PM
gothspeed   So is this board going to sit inside the 'chr...   Dec 1 2013, 02:42 PM
mikesmith   So is this board going to sit inside the 'chr...   Dec 1 2013, 03:57 PM
Spoke   So is this board going to sit inside the 'chr...   Dec 1 2013, 08:14 PM
McMark   No I get it. But building separators seems like a ...   Dec 1 2013, 06:43 PM
Spoke   Ordered a couple of boards today. I made a couple...   Dec 4 2013, 02:58 PM
JmuRiz   Check out these units, a lot of local 356 guys hav...   Dec 4 2013, 03:08 PM
mikesmith   The Classic Auto LEDs folks (http://www.classicaut...   Dec 4 2013, 04:22 PM
timothy_nd28   How many vias are on the board?   Dec 4 2013, 04:25 PM
Spoke   Check out these units, a lot of local 356 guys ha...   Dec 4 2013, 06:09 PM
mikesmith   The Classic Auto LEDs folks (http://www.classica...   Dec 4 2013, 06:49 PM
Spoke   I just remembered that I had a set in a box here ...   Dec 6 2013, 08:50 AM
mikesmith   You could also consider using an LED backlight dri...   Dec 6 2013, 10:24 AM
Spoke   You could also consider using an LED backlight dr...   Dec 6 2013, 03:48 PM
mikesmith   You could also consider using an LED backlight d...   Dec 6 2013, 05:28 PM
Cairo94507   Yeah….what he just said :) Seriously, I am rea...   Dec 6 2013, 05:25 PM
Spoke   Received the high power LED boards today. They loo...   Dec 16 2013, 03:49 PM
Spoke   The lenses fit nicely in the holes provided. Oppos...   Dec 16 2013, 03:51 PM
Spoke   Also got some bulb bases so I can quickly switch i...   Dec 16 2013, 03:52 PM
CptTripps   Holy shit! Those look bad-ass!   Dec 16 2013, 03:53 PM
Chris H.   :agree: You're REALLY DOING THIS!!...   Dec 16 2013, 04:02 PM
zymurgist   :headbanger:   Dec 16 2013, 04:14 PM
Harpo   Very impressive, keep up the good work Harpo   Dec 16 2013, 06:21 PM
Cairo94507   I love the direction these have gone. Great work ...   Dec 16 2013, 07:13 PM
effutuo101   Great. Another thing to spend money on for my car....   Dec 17 2013, 09:08 AM
monkeyboy   Can't wait to see these work! Awesome!   Dec 17 2013, 11:04 AM
Spoke   Received the alternate boards today. This one uses...   Dec 18 2013, 03:10 PM
mikesmith   (please let me know if you'd rather I didn...   Dec 18 2013, 04:53 PM
Spoke   Those WS2811s look pretty cool. I looked for them ...   Dec 18 2013, 06:17 PM
Spoke   I built up one of the 5mm LED lights. Pretty easy ...   Dec 18 2013, 06:21 PM
Spoke   The 5mm LEDs are a good bit brighter than the brak...   Dec 18 2013, 06:30 PM
Spoke   This shot is with the brake light pointing up towa...   Dec 18 2013, 06:33 PM
Spoke   This shot is most telling of the difference in out...   Dec 18 2013, 06:37 PM
Cairo94507   This is so sweet! I love watching these come ...   Dec 18 2013, 07:22 PM
mikesmith   That shadow contrast trick is pretty neat. Re: th...   Dec 18 2013, 07:22 PM
CptTripps   Can't wait for a set. Great work!   Dec 18 2013, 07:42 PM
Spoke   I mounted the one 5mm LED brake light tonight. I ...   Dec 20 2013, 10:34 PM
Spoke   A 1057 base was soldered onto the pigtail from the...   Dec 20 2013, 10:41 PM
Rleog   Great to see this coming together. Very nicely do...   Dec 21 2013, 04:44 AM
Spoke   Here's some comparisons of the brightness of t...   Dec 21 2013, 08:29 AM
Speedmster   Thats a pretty big difference. Looks good!   Dec 21 2013, 11:19 AM
StratPlayer   Bit to bright   Dec 21 2013, 11:59 AM
Rleog   Well....Duh! I looked at the 1st pic above, t...   Dec 21 2013, 12:41 PM
stugray   Sorry, I didnt read the whole thread but curious: ...   Dec 21 2013, 01:22 PM
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