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> LED Taillights, Custom Made for the 914
Spoke
post Jan 26 2013, 02:40 AM
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I've wanted to convert my 914 taillights to LED for a while but never got around to it.

Finally I started working on the design of the taillights. This will be a single custom PCB for each side and will have all the LEDs and control circuits on it. One PCB will be used for both sides.

The plan is to remove the existing plastic reflector and bulb assembly and mount a custom board in its place. With proper standoffs, I should be able to mount the board using the same 2 screw holes that secure the reflector.

I'm trying to decide now how many LEDs to use for each purpose. Right now, I have 8 LEDs for the backup lights, 20 LEDs for the running/Brake lights, 24 LEDs for the turnsignals, and 4 LEDs for the side marker.

I've been observing modern cars with LED taillights and some use a few LEDs (like 8) and some a lot (+20).

I would like your opinions on how many LEDs you think would be good to use. On the board below, the LEDs are spaced about 0.7 inches apart. These will be medium brightness white LEDs. (I'll let the lenses provide the color).

The first cut at the board is shown below for the driver's side. The side marker LEDs will be right angle LEDs pointing out the side of the board. They can be seen on the extreme left side of the board.

If these work out, I could manufacture them for World members. One thing though, they won't be cheap. The LEDs are about $0.50 through Digikey and there are more than 55 LEDs on each right now. Plus there's 2 dc-dc converters for providing constant current for the tail/brake and turnsignal LEDs.

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Spoke   LED Taillights   Jan 26 2013, 02:40 AM
CptTripps   I think that's a little too bright for running...   Dec 21 2013, 06:35 PM
palmer_md   I think that's a little too bright for runnin...   Dec 21 2013, 10:52 PM
Spoke   I think that's a little too bright for runnin...   Dec 23 2013, 11:31 PM
stugray   They make adjustable "buckpuck" drivers ...   Dec 22 2013, 10:33 AM
Spoke   The Buckpuck was one of my design wins at my last ...   Dec 22 2013, 07:05 PM
stugray   Spoke - Cool that you worked on that. Are you an E...   Dec 23 2013, 12:23 PM
McMark   Spoke - Cool that you worked on that. Are you an ...   Dec 23 2013, 06:29 PM
Spoke   Spoke - Cool that you worked on that. Are you an ...   Dec 23 2013, 11:23 PM
mikesmith   This is the line of thinking that's led to t...   Dec 23 2013, 11:37 PM
AE354803   Spoke - Cool that you worked on that. Are you an...   Jan 14 2014, 12:53 PM
SirAndy   :trophy: So, how much for a complete kit? :ide...   Dec 23 2013, 12:32 PM
Spoke   :trophy: So, how much for a complete kit? :id...   Dec 23 2013, 11:27 PM
mikesmith   I've worked a bit with the MEMS sensors; they...   Dec 23 2013, 06:41 PM
Speedmster   Spoke, How did your test go back on the 24 Dec?   Jan 13 2014, 02:32 PM
Spoke   The overnight test of the taillights went well. No...   Jan 14 2014, 11:29 AM
CptTripps   Those look brilliant. Can't wait till a full s...   Jan 14 2014, 12:10 PM
ClayPerrine   Those look brilliant. Can't wait till a full ...   Jan 14 2014, 12:15 PM
JmuRiz   Off topic: Lehigh, good wrestling team!   Jan 14 2014, 02:59 PM
Spoke   These Cree's are super bright. I'm off by ...   Jan 15 2014, 04:37 PM
Spoke   OK, I think I have some good levels now. I need to...   Jan 15 2014, 05:46 PM
Harpo   Looks good. I'm inclined to believe that they...   Jan 15 2014, 06:28 PM
Spoke   Looks good. I'm inclined to believe that the...   Jan 15 2014, 11:11 PM
r_towle   Looks good. I'm inclined to believe that th...   Jan 18 2014, 08:14 PM
jcd914   Looks good. I'm inclined to believe that th...   Jan 20 2014, 01:11 PM
Speedmster   [quote name='Spoke' post='1983911' date='Jan 15 2...   Jan 20 2014, 03:32 PM
CptTripps   David: That may be true, but there comes a point w...   Jan 15 2014, 07:43 PM
Harpo   Obviously you have first hand experience with how ...   Jan 18 2014, 07:40 AM
McMark   Could you do a few milliseconds of bright flash an...   Jan 18 2014, 08:07 PM
Spoke   Could you do a few milliseconds of bright flash a...   Jan 19 2014, 12:19 PM
Spoke   Are you doing something for the 911? Having pulle...   Jan 19 2014, 08:02 PM
Harpo   Looking good   Jan 19 2014, 08:45 PM
Cairo94507   I really like the idea of a brighter flash for a c...   Jan 19 2014, 09:27 PM
Spoke   Been contemplating :idea: a way to secure the bo...   Jan 20 2014, 04:42 PM
CptTripps   Great work man. That's a seriously great proje...   Jan 20 2014, 06:59 PM
monkeyboy   Beautiful!   Jan 23 2014, 09:20 AM
Spoke   Here's a comparison of the Cree LED board and ...   Jan 24 2014, 12:04 AM
Spoke   This set of LED brake lights is now for sale. This...   Jan 24 2014, 12:31 AM
Speedmster   This set of LED brake lights is now for sale. Thi...   Jan 24 2014, 06:28 AM
Jeffs9146   I am in for a set! :beer2:   Jan 24 2014, 01:05 AM
Cairo94507   Wow- this project is moving forward very nicely. ...   Jan 24 2014, 08:22 AM
Spoke   Here's some daylight vids. This one is the Cr...   Jan 24 2014, 03:17 PM
FlatIV   Are the Cree LED's red?   Jan 24 2014, 04:48 PM
Spoke   Are the Cree LED's red? Yes. The p/n is XBD...   Jan 25 2014, 01:47 AM
Speedmster   Spoke, those look good man! Both Cree and 5mm ...   Jan 24 2014, 05:58 PM
Spoke   Just toying around with a different LED pattern. I...   Jan 25 2014, 01:59 AM
Rotary'14   Just toying around with a different LED pattern. ...   Jan 25 2014, 11:15 AM
palmer_md   Just toying around with a different LED pattern....   Jan 26 2014, 06:49 PM
mikesmith   I mixed the box and fill when I was playing with t...   Jan 25 2014, 02:42 AM
cary   I'm in for a pair of 5mm when they're avai...   Jan 25 2014, 09:35 AM
Spoke   Finally got the costs figured out for the 5mm boar...   Jan 26 2014, 06:12 PM
Kansas 914   Finally got the costs figured out for the 5mm boa...   Jan 26 2014, 06:26 PM
Harpo   Price sounds good. Sign me up Thanks David   Jan 26 2014, 06:55 PM
tomeric914   Very well done! I'm in for a set! :dr...   Jan 26 2014, 07:44 PM
Zimms   +1   Jan 27 2014, 08:22 AM
chads74   I'll take a set. Where do I send the $...   Jan 27 2014, 09:03 AM
Spoke   Thanks all for the interest in the brake lights. ...   Jan 27 2014, 11:09 AM
monkeyboy   I will take a set of the 5MM ones as well. Will y...   Jan 27 2014, 11:45 AM
Chris H.   I'm in for a set. Wow that video is alarming....   Jan 27 2014, 11:54 AM
FlatIV   One set please.   Jan 27 2014, 05:45 PM
Rleog   In for 1 set.   Jan 27 2014, 06:32 PM
914coop   I'll take a set. Thank's Irv   Jan 27 2014, 07:02 PM
sportlicherFahrer   +1   Jan 27 2014, 08:58 PM
cconcepcion   I'm in for a set as well.   Jan 31 2014, 09:32 PM
Cairo94507   You know I am going to have a set of these for my ...   Feb 1 2014, 07:49 AM
dw914six   Looks great. I will take 1 set.   Feb 1 2014, 08:25 AM
Spoke   An update on the 5mm LED lights; I have been testi...   Feb 5 2014, 08:43 PM
smj   Glad to hear you're double checking the heat d...   Feb 21 2014, 03:24 AM
Spoke   I built one PCB with high power Cree amber LEDs to...   Feb 23 2014, 07:49 PM
Spoke   When I built the Cree amber board, I didn't th...   Feb 23 2014, 07:57 PM
Spoke   About the 5mm boards, I found a Cree LED which sho...   Feb 23 2014, 08:01 PM
Cairo94507   I just love that you are addressing the brake and ...   Feb 23 2014, 08:08 PM
monkeyboy   I am even more excited now. I would recommend fro...   Feb 24 2014, 10:31 AM
cary   I'm in for a set when your ready.   Feb 25 2014, 08:14 AM
barebrad   +1 (Brake)   Feb 25 2014, 11:59 AM
Kansas 914   I would love to be able to "show off" my...   Feb 25 2014, 12:05 PM
shawn914   Will take a set when ready.   Feb 25 2014, 05:59 PM
kid914   might be in for 1 thank   Feb 25 2014, 06:09 PM
Cairo94507   I have to agree with monkey boy - it would be craz...   Feb 25 2014, 06:25 PM
Vacca Rabite   Spoke, I'm in for a set when you are ready. Th...   Feb 25 2014, 07:15 PM
Harpo   Very impressive   Feb 26 2014, 05:39 AM
r_towle   I am in for at least one set. When are you going ...   Feb 26 2014, 07:03 PM
Spoke   I am in for at least one set. When are you going...   Feb 27 2014, 11:32 AM
JmuRiz   Glad you are experimenting to see what style/confi...   Feb 27 2014, 01:21 PM
r_towle   Have you considered replacing the melted area with...   Mar 1 2014, 06:41 PM
Spoke   Have you considered replacing the melted area wit...   Mar 3 2014, 12:15 AM
Spoke   I built another 5mm LED board with Cree C503-AAN-C...   Mar 2 2014, 11:56 PM
Spoke   OK, I'm finally ready to move forward with a P...   Mar 3 2014, 12:11 AM
Speedmster   Spoke, As I mentioned in a PM, I have received th...   Mar 3 2014, 07:18 AM
Spoke   Spoke, As I mentioned in a PM, I have received t...   Mar 3 2014, 08:31 AM
CptTripps   Note: That's the first time that anyone has ev...   Mar 3 2014, 09:27 AM
Spoke   Boards were ordered last week. Will have the bare...   Mar 10 2014, 03:26 PM
orthobiz   Is the video with most current incarnation of the ...   Mar 10 2014, 06:47 PM
Spoke   Is the video with most current incarnation of the...   Mar 10 2014, 07:01 PM
orthobiz   Is the video with most current incarnation of th...   Mar 12 2014, 02:51 PM
Speedmster   Glad you got them lit up. I remembered that I did...   Mar 10 2014, 07:33 PM
Zimms   Spoke, Do you have an idea of the cost? Thanks,...   Mar 11 2014, 07:17 AM
Spoke   Spoke, Do you have an idea of the cost? Thanks...   Mar 11 2014, 01:29 PM
monkeyboy   Spoke, Do you have an idea of the cost? Thank...   Mar 11 2014, 02:37 PM
Zimms   Thanks! Let us know where and when you want ...   Mar 11 2014, 01:34 PM
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