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> Mounting the Spare, Vertically, pic's wanted & a question
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post Feb 4 2013, 09:45 AM
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With my radiator install I will need to mount my spare vertically. I'd like to see a few pic's of others cars that have done this. My question is this; what size tire did you use because the stock tire/rim combo won't fit standing up?
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post Feb 4 2013, 09:59 AM
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15 inch collapsable spare, space saver
the kind porsche used in all of the 944's and mid year 911's that require an air pump.

you can also find these in 14 inch at junkyards for other types of cars
I believe the mid 80's nissan 300zx used a 14inch version

I throw a full sized tire into the rear trunk for longer trips
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post Feb 4 2013, 10:14 AM
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Agreed, 5-bolt space saver spare and a $15 walmart 12V air pump.
4-bolt you can use a 4-1/2" X 15" bug rim and a 125-15" temporary spare tire, look in a scrap yard. You could also do this with a early 5 -bolt steel rim.
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post Feb 4 2013, 10:16 AM
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Here's the steps I needed to take to do it.

1. Acquire a factory hold down. Mine was on the section of floor I cut out for the GT oil cooler vent.

2. Pick the part and weld it to the bulkhead.

3. Find a factory space saver spare.

4. Mount it up.

I mounted mine with the Fuchs facing forward so I had to lengthen the attaching rod. I got a female/female coupler and connected an extra length of metric rod (10x1.5??)

You can just make out the mount location in this pre-paint picture:
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post Feb 4 2013, 10:52 AM
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15" space saver

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post Feb 4 2013, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(brant @ Feb 4 2013, 07:59 AM) *
I throw a full sized tire into the rear trunk for longer trips

I agree with half of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The part i don't agree with is the "throwing" since the rear trunk already has a threaded hole for the spare wheel fastener.
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post Feb 4 2013, 01:17 PM
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Space saver spare with a small SCUBA bottle with the first stage of an old SCUBA regulator which drops the pressure down to about 120 psi. Or a 12 volt pump. Weld a spare tire cleat to the wall and you're in bidness.


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post Feb 4 2013, 01:49 PM
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post Feb 4 2013, 04:03 PM
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Thx Gents & (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) u 2 Elyutt. All good answers, as usual. Looks like I'm one of the few that haven't gone the 5 lug route. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Eric, Nice ride. I think it's time for your COTM nomination. Can I get a second? And BigKat, I'm nominating your blue baby next. Wished you lived closer. I'd be at your house once a week stealing ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 4 2013, 05:03 PM) *

Thx Gents & (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) u 2 Elyutt. All good answers, as usual. Looks like I'm one of the few that haven't gone the 5 lug route. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Eric, Nice ride. I think it's time for your COTM nomination. Can I get a second? And BigKat, I'm nominating your blue baby next. Wished you lived closer. I'd be at your house once a week stealing ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)


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Agreed, 5-bolt space saver spare and a $15 walmart 12V air pump.
4-bolt you can use a 4-1/2" X 15" bug rim and a 125-15" temporary spare tire, look in a scrap yard. You could also do this with a early 5 -bolt steel rim.


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post Feb 4 2013, 04:37 PM
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Or if you're willing to give up the space in the rear trunk, there is a threaded insert back there. I've had to throw my spare back there for long trip before to fit all my stuff (suitcase, back pack, etc.) to go see my girlfriend. Gives you a ton of room in the front trunk.
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post Feb 4 2013, 04:51 PM
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Might be a stupid question but any problems welding the spare tire bracket to the bulkhead with the fuel tank in place ? I know you can do short bursts with a mig or any welder for that matter but I know the tank wall is pretty close to the bulkhead.
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post Feb 4 2013, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ Feb 4 2013, 02:51 PM) *

Might be a stupid question but any problems welding the spare tire bracket to the bulkhead with the fuel tank in place ? I know you can do short bursts with a mig or any welder for that matter but I know the tank wall is pretty close to the bulkhead.


I would just take the bracket off and lift the tank up about a foot or two and you will be fine! Unless you have the old saturated fuel lines at the bottom of the tank, then you are asking for a fire!!
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post Feb 4 2013, 06:06 PM
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Why are these spares requires an air pump? They so not hold the it for long?
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post Feb 4 2013, 06:16 PM
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Why are these spares requires an air pump?

Because they don't have air in them. Hence the term "space saver" ....
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post Feb 4 2013, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(914itis @ Feb 4 2013, 05:06 PM) *

Why are these spares requires an air pump? They so not hold the it for long?



as andy said.
they are collapsable spares
they come deflated to save space
you blow them up when you need them

they equate to something close to 80 a series tire (very tall sidewall) when they are blown up
I've used 15 and 14 inch rims on cars
the 14 inch rim with the 80series sidewall gives you a rolling diameter closer to modern street tires (at least 1 inch closer)
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post Feb 4 2013, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 4 2013, 02:03 PM) *

Thx Gents & (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) u 2 Elyutt. All good answers, as usual. Looks like I'm one of the few that haven't gone the 5 lug route. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Eric, Nice ride. I think it's time for your COTM nomination. Can I get a second? And BigKat, I'm nominating your blue baby next. Wished you lived closer. I'd be at your house once a week stealing ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

If you go to a collapsable spare, I have a wheel adapter you can have so the spare will fit your four lug wheel, since I won't be needing it anymore.
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 4 2013, 10:18 AM) *
QUOTE(brant @ Feb 4 2013, 07:59 AM) *
I throw a full sized tire into the rear trunk for longer trips
I agree with half of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The part i don't agree with is the "throwing" since the rear trunk already has a threaded hole for the spare wheel fastener.
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A-ha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) ... that's what that threaded hole is for.
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post Feb 4 2013, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(brant @ Feb 4 2013, 07:45 PM) *

QUOTE(914itis @ Feb 4 2013, 05:06 PM) *

Why are these spares requires an air pump? They so not hold the it for long?



as andy said.
they are collapsable spares
they come deflated to save space
you blow them up when you need them

they equate to something close to 80 a series tire (very tall sidewall) when they are blown up
I've used 15 and 14 inch rims on cars
the 14 inch rim with the 80series sidewall gives you a rolling diameter closer to modern street tires (at least 1 inch closer)

That's too funny . I had one and there was no air on it, I started to put air and it was looking weird, I taught the tire was coming off, something was wrong with it.
I then took it to a tire shop removed the tire and put a regular tire. I always wonder why there was a drain valve. It's in my trunk now as a spare with a regular tire.

Now I feel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 4 2013, 05:55 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 4 2013, 02:03 PM) *

Thx Gents & (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) u 2 Elyutt. All good answers, as usual. Looks like I'm one of the few that haven't gone the 5 lug route. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Eric, Nice ride. I think it's time for your COTM nomination. Can I get a second? And BigKat, I'm nominating your blue baby next. Wished you lived closer. I'd be at your house once a week stealing ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

If you go to a collapsible spare, I have a wheel adapter you can have so the spare will fit your four lug wheel, since I won't be needing it anymore.

I'll take it. I don't know what it is and I've never seen one but it sounds like I'll need 'em! I don't find any of these collapsible spares listed at the usual tire stores. So do these tires come in 14" & 15" sizes and mount to my rim or do they take a special rim? I've read that once inflated these sometimes end up a bit catty wampus.
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