 Floor pans and long at once, will my car collapse |
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| type11969 |
 Nov 13 2004, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States  |
One of the POs of my 914 decided to stick weld the passenger side floor pan in, it looks like crap. The inner and outer firewall were also fixed with this method, except that rust was cut out, and a shitty scab plate was welded over the vacancy. The hell hole received similar treatment. Since part of the floor pan in my car has to be pulled away to fix the inner rocker, I was thinking about taking the entire floor pan out at the same time. Then I got to thinking that with the hols in the long and rockers, and no floor pan, my car might just collapse. What do you all think?
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| type11969 |
Nov 13 2004, 07:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
anyone got a guess?
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| Jeroen |
Nov 13 2004, 10:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
You need a jig
Better yet, get a decent roller (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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| echocanyons |
Nov 13 2004, 10:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California 
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Good insurance would be to brace the longs and/or the doors just in case.
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| SpecialK |
Nov 13 2004, 10:31 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
Check this post out!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...=ST&f=2&t=16748 Okay, you're up Brad....(it's like deja vu all over again... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ) |
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| type11969 |
Nov 14 2004, 06:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks for that link, but I've read, and re-read that post a number of times. No floor pan removal in it. Michelko was helpful with taking pictures of his door brace for me though.
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I am already planning on bracing the door, I guess I should have asked if bracing for the floor pan would be necessary too. Sounds like I should. And I should have mentioned that I refuse to admit defeat on this car, I am going to fix it. -Chris |
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| ChrisFoley |
Nov 14 2004, 06:39 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,924 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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Are you planning to remove the entire floor pan?
How about just cutting away the part you need to, in order to repair the rocker. Then when that is done cut the rest of the floor out and replace. As long as the car is well supported and the doors are braced you should be fine. |
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| type11969 |
Nov 14 2004, 07:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
I was thinking about doing that, but the passenger floor pan half itself is in good shape since it was obviously replaced, so I wanted to try to avoid cutting it up.
I'm thinking that I will weld in some angles from the center hump to the inner rocker, then pulling the floor out. That, along with the door brace, should keep things rigid. Let me know if that is a horrible idea. -Chris |
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| Bleyseng |
Nov 14 2004, 12:27 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you put in a door brace and the long is braced and solid remove all the pans. Just replace them will new parts as you will be way ahead instead of hacking in some new patch pieces. Since the pan just welds onto the longs and bulkhead its easy to do. Long repairs are a different ballgame...
Geoff |
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| ChrisFoley |
Nov 14 2004, 12:37 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,924 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Nov 14 2004, 01:27 PM) its easy to do relatively speaking. There are still about two hundred fifty factory welds to drill out to replace the entire pan. |
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| GWN7 |
Nov 14 2004, 12:39 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
If you brace the doors (top and bottom) and use about 8 jackstands (4 at each end). You should be ok. Do one side at a time.
Bracing the door top and bottom will stop the car from spreading either way and the extra jack stands will insure there is no movement. |
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