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| Marv's3.6six |
 Feb 23 2013, 06:08 PM
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Actual member 7"  Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Huntington Beach, Ca. Member No.: 3,165 Region Association: Southern California 
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Hey teeners I am looking to install 4 point harness in my GT. Does anyone know if the harness needs to be DOT approved in Ca.. AFAIK the only DOT choice is Schroth Rally 4 .... Opinons ???? Thanks.
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| Andyrew |
Feb 23 2013, 06:19 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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For the streets? Most cops dont care/know. If you were driving a civic ya they would nail you because they want to be a dick, but a classic car/hot rod? Nah they are much more lenient.
I have had a simpson in my car for 10 years. |
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| brant |
Feb 23 2013, 06:24 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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its probably not technically legal
although I agree that you should be able to get away with it any harness manufacturer that goes through the trouble of testing and getting certified is going to have labels right on the harness, or big advertising on the product description (and charge a premium since they paid for that certification) |
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| Elliot Cannon |
Feb 23 2013, 07:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None
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Get a 5 point. A four point is useless an in some cases dangerous.
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| Sneezy |
Feb 23 2013, 10:20 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 23-February 13 From: Death Valley Member No.: 15,571 Region Association: None |
I think they're more dangerous than a shoulder/lap belt unless you're wearing a Hans Device.
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| Marv's3.6six |
Feb 23 2013, 11:37 PM
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Actual member 7" Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Huntington Beach, Ca. Member No.: 3,165 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 23 2013, 05:51 PM)  Get a 5 point. A four point is useless an in some cases dangerous. Am considering Schroth Rally which is DOT legal and has ASM (Anti Submarining) which I am told makes them safe(er) But I started this thread because I was wondering if the PO PO would come down on a brutha for funky belts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| strawman |
Feb 24 2013, 12:17 AM
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I got pulled over by CHP in Monterey County on Route 1 about five years ago in my old MR2. He said he saw the factory shoulder belt wasn't hooked up and decided to pull me over. When I showed him I had my 4-pt harness on, he said it technically isn't DOT-approved and gave me a ticket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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| ArtechnikA |
Feb 24 2013, 07:05 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
Yes, the Schroth is the only company that's bothered to get the full DOT certification. RoadGlue here got such a ticket, took his documentation with him to fight the ticket and won.
They're good belts too. With the full 6-point attachment I expect they're still legal, and much safer. |
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| Luke M |
Feb 24 2013, 08:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,372 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States
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I know that here per the NYS V&TL it has to be what the manufacture originally installed at the factory. It will also fail the yearly NYS inspection if the OEM belts are removed. A aftermarket harness can be installed but the oem belts must stay in place and be used on the road.
I'm not sure how the CA inspection works or if you guys even have to get one? I'm sure if CA is anything like NYS they will want the oem belts installed. |
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| ArtechnikA |
Feb 24 2013, 08:54 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Luke M @ Feb 24 2013, 09:42 AM) I'm not sure how the CA inspection works or if you guys even have to get one? I'm sure if CA is anything like NYS they will want the oem belts installed. California ia a lot like NYS - but not in this regard ;-) No annual 'safety' inspections - just biennial emissions for some years. Curious - if I'm having a pre-'62 inspected in NYS - do I have to take my belts out ? |
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| Luke M |
Feb 24 2013, 09:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,372 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Feb 24 2013, 07:54 AM) QUOTE(Luke M @ Feb 24 2013, 09:42 AM) I'm not sure how the CA inspection works or if you guys even have to get one? I'm sure if CA is anything like NYS they will want the oem belts installed. California ia a lot like NYS - but not in this regard ;-) No annual 'safety' inspections - just biennial emissions for some years. Curious - if I'm having a pre-'62 inspected in NYS - do I have to take my belts out ? " per the NYS V&TL it has to be what the manufacture originally installed at the factory " . If no belts from the factory then you're ok but if there was it better be there. |
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