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post Mar 2 2013, 02:37 PM
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ok so i just bought a 1976 porsche 914 from my girlfriends dad and it hasnt been started since 1986. he said that he thinks the cylinder wall was messed up something. but anyway its been sitting since 86' and i would like to know what to do/check before i try to start it. i am new to the porsche world so i look forward to talking with all of you.


here are some pics: the interior is amazingly clean

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post Mar 2 2013, 02:42 PM
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Looks nice!

Did he happen to say why he thinks that? What engine size?
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post Mar 2 2013, 02:47 PM
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Very nice! Welcome to 914 World! I hope you enjoy your car as much as we do! I was very excited when I got my first 914 which was a real junk car. Now I'm on my third one in 10 years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Nice ride.

To get it going, at least check the oil level, perhaps change if necessary. Once you get it running, definitely change the oil.

Check the condition of the gas. You will have to siphon some gas out of the tank to take a look at it. If varnished, you have to remove all the gas and clean the tank, maybe even redo all the hoses.

Overall inspection of the wiring and hoses in the engine compartment.

Check all the hoses in the engine compartment for dry rot.

Check/change the spark plugs.

Check/change the points.
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post Mar 2 2013, 02:55 PM
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Looks nice!

Did he happen to say why he thinks that? What engine size?


thanks! its a 2.0 and he said that something went wrong with the piston and it hit the cylinder wall but then he said he fixed it. but then he said the last time he drove it he heard like a knock or tick when he got home. shut it off and hasnt been started since. i pretty much know nothing about these engines.lol
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post Mar 2 2013, 03:20 PM
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thanks!
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post Mar 2 2013, 03:36 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) The rubber brake lines may have swelled internally. Can't tell from the inside, a common problem when these cars sit. You should consider replacing them.
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post Mar 2 2013, 06:29 PM
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Get a compression tester from the local auto parts store.
Get one that uses a hose and screws into the plug hole.

Follow the directions and test each cylinder with the throttle body pinned wide open and the fuel pump unplugged (or the relay unplugged)

Get those numbers back to everyone here and you will get an answer on what to do next.

You will learn alot here, and may people have been in your shoes.

You will be an expert in less than a year...and we all welcome you.

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post Mar 2 2013, 06:52 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) The rubber brake lines may have swelled internally. Can't tell from the inside, a common problem when these cars sit. You should consider replacing them.

wow, awesome info thanks man, i will definitely look at that
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post Mar 2 2013, 06:53 PM
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Get a compression tester from the local auto parts store.
Get one that uses a hose and screws into the plug hole.

Follow the directions and test each cylinder with the throttle body pinned wide open and the fuel pump unplugged (or the relay unplugged)

Get those numbers back to everyone here and you will get an answer on what to do next.

You will learn alot here, and may people have been in your shoes.

You will be an expert in less than a year...and we all welcome you.

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wow thank you man. ill get right on that compression test and post it up here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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Replace all the rubber fuel lines, including those under the gas tank. High-pressure fuel leaking (spraying) onto a hot engine is a recipe for fire. FIRE BAD!!!

Replace all the fluids; oil and gear oil, brake fluid, and very likely the fuel as well. (Does the fuel smell like fuel? If so, it may be fine.)

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Replace all the rubber fuel lines, including those under the gas tank. High-pressure fuel leaking (spraying) onto a hot engine is a recipe for fire. FIRE BAD!!!

Replace all the fluids; oil and gear oil, brake fluid, and very likely the fuel as well. (Does the fuel smell like fuel? If so, it may be fine.)

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thanks, ill be sure to do that as well. i havnt smelled the fuell yet but ill probaly get rid of it anyway
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If your just trying to start it then worry about the fuel, fuel lines and your basic tuneup stuff. If you have basic mechanical skills your half way there. Im still learning as well and i have been into aircooled vw's since 1984 and 914's since 1988. Good luck and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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reserve Apr 20th for a trip to Hershey PA to meet alot of other 914er's (maybe you'll decide to sell your new prize after the exposure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) and buy alot of old rusty parts to fill up your garage 'cause "you'll need them someday..."
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Lots of good info so far but let me add this. Any car that sat since 1986 will have stale gas. Do not try to start the car with stale gas. Drain it.

Take a flash light and look into the gas tank and check for rust. Rust will eventually cause some real issues with the filter and even the injectors. There is a way to de-rust the tank with Arm & Hammer washing soda and a battery charger. Google it. It works, I've done it.

Change all the fuel lines. The rubber set will have varnished fuel deposits and decomposing rubber that new fuel will loosen and wash into the filter and eventually the injection. Order the stainless line set for the tunnel from Chris Foley at Tangerine Racing. The plastic lines will also likely have started to decompose and crack. There have been many horror stories of car fires from failed lines. I have a car here that was a Cali car the burned from a split fuel line. Check the member vendor section.

Change the oil. Don't skip this. Change the oil and use some type of break in oil. Look for Brad Penn oil in your area. The replacement oil will actually help in cleaning out the condensation that forms from sitting.

As Rich stated run a compression check and post the results. It sounds like the car may have had a loose valve seat that caused damage to a cylinder. If the ticking came back it is likely the seat went un noticed during the cylinder repair. You'll know when you check the compression.

In review: Clean and repair the fuel system, change the oil, check the compression, report back. Wait to start fire it up until you know what the compression results are. If you have a loose valve seat you will want to repair it before firing it up and destroying the engine.

Lots to do to wake up a sleeping car. But that's the basics for the engine.

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