4702900819, Garold show us more! Options

[gms]

Garold picked up this December 1969 build 914, very cool early stuff!

[914Sixer]

#319 would be a really early car. Interested in seeing the Karman plate to figure the build date.

[GaroldShaffer]

#319 would be a really early car. Interested in seeing the Karman plate to figure the build date.

I will get you Karman plate info in the morning and it's 819 no 319.

[GaroldShaffer]

Garold picked up this December 1969 build 914, very cool early stuff!

Karman Number 4749544
paint code L11E

OK here are some picks.

Here it is on the lift.


Notice the front brake dust shield is different than later models. It covers the entire brake rotor.


The center tray is different than later. It doesn't have the divider in it. Also notice the contour of the lid.



The interior door handle is narrower. I put a later style one under to compare.


Passenger side visor doesn't have a mirror.


It has the rare(?) third seat belt option.


Also early cars didn't have liner on the targa top.


I will post more with differences between very early cars and later ones.

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

We need details, chassis #, color, equipment, condition, history(?), and don't forget to add the VIN to the data base.

[GaroldShaffer]

We need details, chassis #, color, equipment, condition, history(?), and don't forget to add the VIN to the data base.

No real history. I bought from a guy Wisconsin (North of the Dells). Said to have been in his family for sometime. It has had some so-so longitude repairs. Also looks like the passenger side front fender has been replaced. Also missing the correct rear bumper. More details tomorrow.

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

Way to go, you've got yourself a real early "period" car with some unique features that quickly disappeared on later cars, even of the same model year. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

What are your plans for this early example?

Paul

[GaroldShaffer]

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No sure to be honest. It was bought to be a parts car, but once again I find myself questioning what should be done. It has hell hole issues, longs are repaired by someone with worse welding skills than me. Passenger front fender has been replaced. Missing the correct rear bumper. The pans are shot. Engine has single carb conversion. Has been hit in the front and needs the front nose panel repaired.

so.................... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[sixnotfour]

Limited Slip ??

[gms]

Limited Slip ??

Nope I checked it too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[gms]

Garold and I went over this car on Thursday, it looks like it is pretty stock.
It did get a respray but just on the topside. I have not seen a center tray cushion like it before???
I hope someone will want this 1969 car and restore it.

[GaroldShaffer]

The Karman number is 4749544 Paint code L11E

a few more pics of the "issues"

[sixerdon]

Garold and I went over this car on Thursday, it looks like it is pretty stock.
It did get a respray but just on the topside. I have not seen a center tray cushion like it before???
I hope someone will want this 1969 car and restore it.

Interesting. This is the first early tray I've seen in an early /4. And the bottom of the cushion, which looks stock, is yet another variation of that item.
Excluding after market and the console cushion, how many different stock variations and combinations are there to fit the trays? I can think of 3 different bottoms now and at least two different vinyl grain tops.
Any 914 built in 1969 should be saved. It's as early as they get without being a prototype.

Don

[pnewman]

Garold try listing the car as a complete sale and see if you have any interests? Would like to see it restored too. But honestly looks like a major welding project. All though 914's in worse condition have been restored.

Yep. Someone should put this on a rotisserie.

Pete

[KELTY360]

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This is going to be a tough call. On the one hand, it's a very early example with some noteworthy archaeological features. It also has significant structural issues from collision and corrosion. For the foreseeable future, the cost to restore would be economically unjustifiable and historically necessary. If this were a 356 or 911 of similar chronology the decision to restore would be a no-brainer.....a 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[GaroldShaffer]

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This is going to be a tough call. On the one hand, it's a very early example with some noteworthy archaeological features. It also has significant structural issues from collision and corrosion. For the foreseeable future, the cost to restore would be economically unjustifiable and historically necessary. If this were a 356 or 911 of similar chronology the decision to restore would be a no-brainer.....a 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I agree. I'm still on the fence. I leaning towards pulling the dash, visors, outside door handles and few other small items and seeing If I get any interst in it in that condition. If not, then I will finish parting it out and haul it off to the scrap yard.

I do have some $$ and time invested in this car, so I just can't give it away.

[sixerdon]

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This is going to be a tough call. On the one hand, it's a very early example with some noteworthy archaeological features. It also has significant structural issues from collision and corrosion. For the foreseeable future, the cost to restore would be economically unjustifiable and historically necessary. If this were a 356 or 911 of similar chronology the decision to restore would be a no-brainer.....a 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I agree. I'm still on the fence. I leaning towards pulling the dash, visors, outside door handles and few other small items and seeing If I get any interst in it in that condition. If not, then I will finish parting it out and haul it off to the scrap yard.

I do have some $$ and time invested in this car, so I just can't give it away.

I used to hear the same argument back in the late 60's early 70's regarding pre-A 356's and first year 911's. Each had their teething issues of new models, but look where they are now. There may be more interest on foreign soil for these early cars as the euro guys always seem to take the lead in establishing value on these and other unusual marques. Restoring cars back in the old world has been no where near as expensive as here.
Don

[gms]

Garold and I went over this car on Thursday, it looks like it is pretty stock.
It did get a respray but just on the topside. I have not seen a center tray cushion like it before???
I hope someone will want this 1969 car and restore it.

Interesting. This is the first early tray I've seen in an early /4. And the bottom of the cushion, which looks stock, is yet another variation of that item.
Excluding after market and the console cushion, how many different stock variations and combinations are there to fit the trays? I can think of 3 different bottoms now and at least two different vinyl grain tops.
Any 914 built in 1969 should be saved. It's as early as they get without being a prototype.

Don

Don,
I have also seen the 3 variations on the center cushion, it would be great to see more examples of 1969 cars. I have 4702900076 which was a factory car but it was turned into a 914/6 GT in 1971 by Ralph Meaney so there was no stock interior parts left in the car. I also own 9140430012 which has the tray without a divider but it did not have the center cushion when I bought it about 20 years ago.

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

The Karman number is 4749544 Paint code L11E

If I read the chassis # correctly, the chassis was manufactured on the 47th week of 1969.....which works out to be the last week of November 1969. Early car, YES!

[gms]

The Karman number is 4749544 Paint code L11E

If I read the chassis # correctly, the chassis was manufactured on the 47th week of 1969.....which works out to be the last week of November 1969. Early car, YES!

November 20?