Wierd Six Oil Tank, evil bay |
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Wierd Six Oil Tank, evil bay |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 20 2004, 03:51 PM
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redshift |
Nov 20 2004, 03:53 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
hehe
I am not even going to comment... I mean besides this. M |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 20 2004, 05:10 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ricardo Gonzales selling it. He's a great guy. Has tons of parts. I used to buy a bunch of stuff from him when I lived in ChiTown.
I think that's a cool tank. I don't remember the concensous, but there was a thread on those here a while back. I'm sure it resulted in everyone panning the living shit out of them... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
SLITS |
Nov 20 2004, 05:17 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
In reality, a dry sump tank is a dry sump tank. As long as they are properly constructed it makes no difference. The one I bought will go in the front trunk and is a 13 qt tank (I like lotsa oil)
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sixnotfour |
Nov 20 2004, 05:20 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,431 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Mark Stephens made these tanks in the 90's. Otto.s in Venice hates em , Eddie has one in his 914-6 works great.
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 20 2004, 05:26 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Otto.s in Venice hates em Good enough for me...QUOTE The one I bought will go in the front trunk and is a 13 qt tank (I like lotsa oil) Speaking of front tanks... I hear from Russ in Albuquerque (PCA pres and 6 racer down there) that you had to have a "HUGE" scavenge line otherwise you'd starve the engine. I've seem a few setup like 914rs and others Mythbusters? It matters not to me cause I just got Jared's GPR tank in the mail today. (Sorry Sean) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
redshift |
Nov 20 2004, 05:34 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 20 2004, 07:20 PM) Otto.s in Venice hates em Sign me up for 10. M |
ClayPerrine |
Nov 20 2004, 06:00 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,465 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
The tank is a Stevens engineering tank. It goes in place of the current battery tray. I have an old article from VW-Porsche magazine that was written at the time this became available.
Seems that the tank has a problem with cavitation due to oil foaming.. IIRC. Rich Johnson had one that he carried around to swap meets for years. I don't know if he ever sold it or not. |
airsix |
Nov 20 2004, 07:12 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Nov 20 2004, 04:00 PM) Seems that the tank has a problem with cavitation due to oil foaming.. IIRC. I wonder if it's really true or not. Everybody keeps saying you can't make a tank or use an aftermarket tank because it won't have the magic Porsche de-foaming guts (Which really only amount to pouring the oil over a screen). Oil tanks are pretty low tech. They only have mystique because we don't see them much. At least that's my opinion. -Ben M. |
Root_Werks |
Nov 22 2004, 01:20 PM
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Yep, Eddie is running one in his 914-7 2.7. When you take the cap off, you can see the baffle. Eddie was running his car at the track and looking around the breather lines and inside the tank, I couldn't see any foam. About the only thing I didn't like was there wasn't a dip stick. Eddie said he just kept a close eye on the oil level. I am sure you could add one with little effort. $300 seems a little much for one of these though? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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ClayPerrine |
Nov 23 2004, 11:38 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,465 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Stevens Ad circa 1988 from VW-Porsche
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Series9 |
Nov 23 2004, 12:58 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Nov 20 2004, 04:26 PM) I've seem a few setup like 914rs and others Mythbusters? Before I stripped my car for the dip and paint, I drove my 3.6 in the car for six months and about 2k miles. No problems. I have a -16 supply and -12 return. |
Brett W |
Nov 23 2004, 01:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
If Porsche had some great special secret about their tanks then everyone would be running Porsche tanks in every form of racing. Not the case. I wonder if the stock tank has any baffles or de-aereators in it?
On the other hand there are a lot of dynamics that go on inside of an oil pan. You don't want to be chasing oiling problems because a tank issue. It is a nice attempt at a reasonably priced "fitted" oil tank. Beats trying to mount the big round Stef's tank or Peterson tank. |
J P Stein |
Nov 23 2004, 02:50 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brett W @ Nov 23 2004, 11:28 AM) I wonder if the stock tank has any baffles or de-aereators in it? There is a horizontal, perforated baffle in the stock 914/6 oil tank, bout 5-6 inches down from the top.....dunno if there are more. It leaves something to be desired for racin'. I get slosh overflow into my catch tank while AX ing......bout 6-8 oz every event. The catch tank stays dry durring normal driving so I guess it fulfills the designed function. |
Joe Bob |
Nov 23 2004, 06:58 PM
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Mark Stephens has been in and out of business many times over the the years...he has left many people holding the bag while he skips away and hides behind bankruptcy laws..
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SLITS |
Nov 23 2004, 07:21 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mikez @ Nov 23 2004, 05:58 PM) Mark Stephens has been in and out of business many times over the the years...he has left many people holding the bag while he skips away and hides behind bankruptcy laws.. Sounds like a Zois endorsement to me! In the early days when we ran a /6 in SCCA, we had a foaming problem. Added antifoam - no problem. |
Brad Roberts |
Nov 23 2004, 07:21 PM
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Eric,
I run a -20 scavenge line on the any engine that spins more than 7500 RPM and has a front mounted tank. We have to run a radiator style hose spring inside the end close to the engine block to keep it from sucking the hose closed. B |
SLITS |
Nov 23 2004, 07:42 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Is this overkill?
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Eric_Shea |
Nov 23 2004, 10:18 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE I run a -20 scavenge line on the any engine that spins more than 7500 RPM and has a front mounted tank. We have to run a radiator style hose spring inside the end close to the engine block to keep it from sucking the hose closed. Brad, That's exactly what this guy (Russ) said... -20 and he runs them through the cabin. He didn't recommend it for those reasons. He said they cooked an engine similar to Joe's at a race after switching to a front tank. "no hard evidence of the reason but that's what he suspected." Thanks for the info... Joe... make sure you check into it. That's a sweet ride. I'd hate to see anything happen to it. Russ is "LITERALLY" in your backyard. He's the Roadrunner Region Pres. Big 914 racer and a good guy. Find him and get a second opinion. |
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