1974 914 Front Trunk Originality Question, Grommets/Drain Tube(s) |
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1974 914 Front Trunk Originality Question, Grommets/Drain Tube(s) |
gcrotvik |
Apr 17 2013, 09:28 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am restoring a 74 914. I have a question regarding the grommets/drain tube(s) used in the 3 drain holes located in the front trunk area. The Porsche Pet does not show (at least that I can find) the grommet/drain tube types that were originally used by the factory. If you follow current thinking by Mark at 914Rubber, there is a 911 style drain tube that fits in the lowest drain hole. When I look up the associated 911 part number for this drain tube, it is not associated with the 914, only the 911 (for the front headlight buckets). If this is true, then the drain tube provided by 914Rubber is a good solution, but not original to the 914.
So here is my question. What did the factory use as grommets/drain tubes for the 3 drain holes in the front trunk? Part numbers? I have looked at many 914 front trunk pictures and it appears that the drain hole under the spare tire hold-down and the drain hole closest to the inner bulkhead are a grommet of some type. The drain hole closest to the front cross panel looks to be closed off with a solid plug. I am looking for concourse originality. Thank you for your help! Greg Attached image(s) |
Pat Garvey |
Apr 17 2013, 06:58 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
I find it a new piece of education here. I am pretty knowledgeable with the early cars. To learn that there is a third weep channel in the 74's is interesting, though because it is forward and in a non-drainage position I doubt that it is a weep channel. Probably another closed grommet.
As you can see in the pic of my '72, there are 2 weep holes (sorry for the filth - haven't been in there for a few years). Looks like you have a third, forward of the center tube. Regardless, the drain tubes that fit into the weep holes are important. I'm not certain which part the factory used but Mark is correct in that the 911 headlight drain tube is a direct fit. And unnoticeable. All the others that you mentioned are simple grommets. Why they are there is a mystery to me. I appreciate that you are after "concourse" originality, but recognize that you have to deal with issues much larger that the drain tubes. No one will recognize any difference, and the 911 tube is the only one available (unless Mark makes some). A someone who has searched for many years for concours parts, and I have found most but not all, concentrate on more important areas. Keep searching though. Took me 8 years to find restored snow plow rear valance. Been searching longer than that now to find a proper early rain tray. And I've put a hefty reward for one out there. BTW, the 4 mounting plates in my trunk are for an early Automotion sway bar. I'll close those up someday. Pat Attached image(s) |
gcrotvik |
Apr 18 2013, 08:31 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Pat,
Thank you for your expertise and feedback. Would it be possible (or maybe you already have pictures) for you to take a few up-close pictures of the 4 grommets/drains in the floor of your trunk? In a perfect world, seeing as your car is original, a picture or 2 of the bottom of the front trunk pan, showing the bottom of the grommets/drain tubes would be ideal. Greg |
Pat Garvey |
Apr 18 2013, 06:21 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Pat, Thank you for your expertise and feedback. Would it be possible (or maybe you already have pictures) for you to take a few up-close pictures of the 4 grommets/drains in the floor of your trunk? In a perfect world, seeing as your car is original, a picture or 2 of the bottom of the front trunk pan, showing the bottom of the grommets/drain tubes would be ideal. Greg Greg, Will do, but it will have to be over the weekend. If I don't do it by Saturday evening, ream my ass! Pat |
gcrotvik |
Apr 18 2013, 07:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thank you!!
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orthobiz |
Apr 21 2013, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
My 74, haven't gotten underneath it yet.
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gcrotvik |
Apr 22 2013, 07:27 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thank you Paul! Your pictures are greatly appreciated.
Greg |
gcrotvik |
Apr 26 2013, 07:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I wanted to follow up on this thread. I was able to find the part number for the front weep hole plugs. It is 999.703.013.50. These are still available. The weep hole drain tubes are part number 911.025.612.00. These too are still available. See pictures attached.
Thank you all who helped find these parts. Greg Attached image(s) |
Pat Garvey |
Apr 28 2013, 05:31 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
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rnellums |
Apr 30 2013, 07:54 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
That is great Info! I had been wondering how to remove mine!
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orthobiz |
Apr 30 2013, 08:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
When I use it, I will post the new cleaner picture. Thanks, Pat.
Paul |
orthobiz |
May 25 2013, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The alcohol did not remove the stains. Went to the pharmacy to get the 91 percent stuff. But I did notice that I'm missing one of the drain tubey things and I ordered them from smcparts!
Paul |
Pat Garvey |
May 26 2013, 05:20 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
The alcohol did not remove the stains. Went to the pharmacy to get the 91 percent stuff. But I did notice that I'm missing one of the drain tubey things and I ordered them from smcparts! Paul 91 percent should do it. Mikey makes a perfect repro of the drain tubes. |
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