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Master Key Blanks $7.95 shipped to your door - USA, Back in stock |
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May 9 2013, 04:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
These are not Porsche OEM but look like the Porsche originals and are European (Italian) made, with the black rubber head and mild nickel plated steel. This is a master key blank. It is the key that will operate your ignition and all of your other locks, as well.
$7.95 each shipped to your door (USA). Will ship internationally at additional cost. Paypal TYPE4PLUS@gmail.com |
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May 17 2013, 07:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
Hello Everyone, I'm going to be ordering key blanks for myself; master and valet. They are not Porsche OEM but look like the Porsche and are European made with the black rubber head. $7 each shipped (CONUS). I will order extra if members would like some for themselves. thanks, dan Master and valet key blanks set to arrive on the 20th. Basically you can get three blanks shipped to your door for less than the price of one Porsche blank. |
JawjaPorsche |
May 18 2013, 03:46 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
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May 21 2013, 03:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
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May 23 2013, 09:38 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 29-December 10 From: Mexico Member No.: 12,539 Region Association: None |
are these made of steel or of brass? If brass, I would be interested in two or three...
It happens that my "key keeper" told me that the steel versions will damage on the long run the internal lock parts. |
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May 23 2013, 09:40 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 29-December 10 From: Mexico Member No.: 12,539 Region Association: None |
sorry for not reading the details, later I saw they are made of steel...
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May 23 2013, 09:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
are these made of steel or of brass? If brass, I would be interested in two or three... It happens that my "key keeper" told me that the steel versions will damage on the long run the internal lock parts. As far as I know, they are steel, like many of the American made keys, that are not the cheap kind of key blanks. As far as "damaging" , I don't know what to tell you. The maker of these keys, is an OEM supplier for different makes and models in Europe. It is a well known brand and they make a lot of keys, for many different makes and models. They are well known. I'm using them for my own car. A locksmith made a key once for my 914, it was not brass, it was not steel. It was garbage and bent after only a few turns of the ignition. Too hard, too soft, it's up to the individual's judgement. Have you priced a key at Porsche lately? The cost is outrageous. |
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May 24 2013, 12:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm a locksmith. Steel keys will damage the tumblers in our lock cylinders as well as the key cutters that locksmiths use. There are steel keys out there, but for the most part keys are made of brass (sometimes nickle plated) so that the key will wear down and the internals of the cylinder will last longer.
If these key blanks are indeed steel, please inform the lock service that you have your keys made at. They, like myself, will use a special cutter or refuse to cut them. One steel key cut on my machines will trash a $100 cutting wheel. |
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May 24 2013, 06:28 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
I'm a locksmith. Steel keys will damage the tumblers in our lock cylinders as well as the key cutters that locksmiths use. There are steel keys out there, but for the most part keys are made of brass (sometimes nickle plated) so that the key will wear down and the internals of the cylinder will last longer. If these key blanks are indeed steel, please inform the lock service that you have your keys made at. They, like myself, will use a special cutter or refuse to cut them. One steel key cut on my machines will trash a $100 cutting wheel. I will look into this further. |
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May 24 2013, 08:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
I'm a locksmith. Steel keys will damage the tumblers in our lock cylinders as well as the key cutters that locksmiths use. There are steel keys out there, but for the most part keys are made of brass (sometimes nickle plated) so that the key will wear down and the internals of the cylinder will last longer. If these key blanks are indeed steel, please inform the lock service that you have your keys made at. They, like myself, will use a special cutter or refuse to cut them. One steel key cut on my machines will trash a $100 cutting wheel. Hello Mike, Do you know what material Porsche keys are made from? |
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May 24 2013, 07:02 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,700 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I just checked my original key (from 1972)--it looks like plated brass (with nearly all of the plating worn off) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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May 24 2013, 07:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
I just checked my original key (from 1972)--it looks like plated brass (with nearly all of the plating worn off) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Steve A- The originals are brass, I was asking about currently made keys. I've been told by two different locksmiths that European keys are steel (including Porsche and VW) and American keys are brass. I wanted to know what Mike's opinion is, to see if he concurs on this matter. I am still looking into this issue with the supplier. It seems to be that even American auto manufacturers are now considering steel keys as well. They called me back to say that they have contacted the factory overseas and it will be a few days to get an answer. |
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May 24 2013, 07:58 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,700 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I just checked my original key (from 1972)--it looks like plated brass (with nearly all of the plating worn off) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Steve A- The originals are brass, I was asking about currently made keys. I've been told by two different locksmiths that European keys are steel (including Porsche and VW) and American keys are brass. I wanted to know what Mike's opinion is, to see if he concurs on this matter. I am still looking into this issue with the supplier. It seems to be that even American auto manufacturers are now considering steel keys as well. They called me back to say that they have contacted the factory overseas and it will be a few days to get an answer. Sorry about that--I thought you were asking about the original keys. |
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May 25 2013, 12:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Not knowing the manufacturer, I can't say. I believe we use a PO5 key blank, but that is an ilco key number. The ilco key blank is nickle plated brass. I have newer Porsche blanks that are not brass, but not steel. A magnet has no effect on them. I'm going to have to say they are aluminum, but I'm not a metalurgist.
The reason for using brass is that it is soft and will wear instead of the tumblers. The theory is that it's easier to make a new key than replace a lock cylinder. Steel keys would wear out the tumblers at an accelerated rate. Aluminum isn't great for a locksmiths key cutters, but a far sight easier on the cutting wheel than steel. I'd cut aluminum, not a chance for steel. |
JawjaPorsche |
May 29 2013, 06:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
I got my key from Dan and went to my local hardware store to get it cut. No problem, it works! And the best part, my hardware store would not take any money for cutting it! Only in small town America! Thank you so much Dan for providing us a key source! Now I have spare! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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May 29 2013, 07:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
I got my key from Dan and went to my local hardware store to get it cut. No problem, it works! And the best part, my hardware store would not take any money for cutting it! Only in small town America! Thank you so much Dan for providing us a key source! Now I have spare! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) No, thank you! I appreciate the support. I like the key fob, it's purty. |
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May 29 2013, 07:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
I got my key from Dan and went to my local hardware store to get it cut. No problem, it works! And the best part, my hardware store would not take any money for cutting it! Only in small town America! Thank you so much Dan for providing us a key source! Now I have spare! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) No, thank you! I appreciate the support. I like the key fob, it's purty. The key fob is over 35 years old! Found it in a drawer last week! |
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May 31 2013, 09:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
Update:
I did some further research, and here are the results. I acquired a set of OEM Porsche keys from a more modern Porsche and the keys are steel. Metallurgy aside, it's a basic magnet test; steel sticks to magnets. So, the two locksmiths I spoke to were correct, modern Porsche keys are made from steel, just like the blanks I am offering for sale at a drastically reduced cost. The bottom picture is of some more duplicates I've had cut for myself. Attached image(s) |
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May 31 2013, 10:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 886 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Creswell, OR Member No.: 8,290 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
OEM keys can be steel, but did you try the magnet test on your blanks? I bet they are not steel.
EDIT: Just read "just like my blanks". |
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May 31 2013, 10:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 25-February 13 From: South Florida Member No.: 15,579 Region Association: South East States |
I don't understand your point. If they are not steel, then there shouldn't be an issue with cutting them, correct? If they are steel and Porsche OEM are steel, then there is no issue here either. The only difference then is $7.00 shipped for a key blank that is affordable for members, versus going to a Porsche dealer, waiting in the parts department to be helped, and paying $83 plus tax to get a master key cut, which is what they wanted to charge me. That is why I decided to buy my own and offer it to the members. So they could get a good quality key, like a Porsche key without the Porsche price.
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